[sf-lug] yellow dog linux on sony playstation 3
jim stockford
jim at well.com
Sat Dec 2 12:05:49 PST 2006
thanks very much for the info.
wii tech specs here:
http://www.nwiizone.com/nintendo-wii/nwii/nintendo-wii-technical-
specifications/
IBM's "Broadway" CPU is Power Architecture tweaked
specially for Nintendo's wii product. I'm assuming (which
scares me) this is a relative of IBM's cell CPU.
I'm a vi kind of guy, love flat files, don't know about
games.... linux on the cell CPU family strikes me as
an interesting future direction.
On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:00:37AM -0800, jim stockford wrote:
>>
>> anybody know about this? I saw a news blurb
>> to the effect that Yellow Dog released a PS3 linux
>> within a week of the PS3 debut.
>
> Yeah, I believe they got ahold of a dev PS3 before launch, to get
> things
> ironed out.
>
> Other interesting newsbites:
>
> PS3 to ship with Linux, Sony confirms [March 17, 2006]
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2370343858.html
>
> "...Kutaragi additionally confirmed that the gaming console will
> ship with an upgradable 60GB hard drive pre-installed with
> Linux..."
>
> (which didn't happen (yet); see below)
>
> and:
>
> PS3 Linux ready and waiting [Oct. 17, 2006]
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2724484258.html
>
> "Terra Soft says it was able to port YDL to the PS3 thanks to an
> agreement with Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI). The
> distribution is based on Fedora Core 5, along with a
> next-generation
> "E17" release of the Englightenment window manager. The
> distribution
> also integrates Cell-specific code created at the Barcelona
> Supercomputing Center."
>
>
> Wikipedia has this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3#Linux
>
> "Originally Sony stated that they were going to pre-install Linux
> on the PS3's hard drive, but current units shipping do not include
> Linux pre-installed. Instead, Sony has made an option in the XMB
> menu
> to install other operating systems. When installation is
> complete, the
> startup operating system can be changed. The system can be easily
> booted back into the cross media bar by holding down the power
> button
> while restarting. Sony has set up a web page which will list
> compatible operating systems. Fedora Core 5 and Gentoo have been
> run
> on the PS3; however, Fedora Core 5 has not been optimized for the
> relatively low amount of RAM. The Sony-sponsored Yellow Dog Linux
> for
> the PS3 was released on November 27, 2006 to the YDL.net community,
> and will be released on DVD on December 11, and finally as a
> publicly
> available image in late December."
>
>
>> If the machine is
>> sufficiently extensible, it could be a "thumping"
>> good linux platform.
>
> Personally, I wan't a Wii. The PS3 looks like a nice upgrade,
> especially
> graphically and in terms of multimedia crap that the PS2 doesn't do
> (and
> that our TiVo does only mediocrly... we don't use it much but for
> music).
> However, the price is way too high, and compared to all of the cool new
> things you can do with the Wii's controllers[*], totally does not seem
> worth it. (Maybe once WipeOut, Tekken and Twisted Metal franchises get
> updated, I'll care about the PlayStation again.)
>
> At the price of a PS3, you could get a cheap Intel-compatible desktop
> that's at least as powerful, and probably a lot more flexible. :)
>
>
> [*] The Wii controllers:
>
> + are wireless - no cables between you and the system, which has the
> obvious
> benefits, but also allows for a wide range of motions you can do
> with
> it... see next item:
>
> + are motion-sensing - you can swing it like a racket when playing
> tennis,
> slash it like a sword when playing Zelda, use it like a steering
> controller in race games, etc.
>
> + are optical-sensing - aim it like a gun, point at menu items like
> you would
> a light pen, laser pointer or mouse,
>
> + have force-feedback
>
> and
>
> + have speakers - when you fire the grappling hook in Zelda, the
> controller
> ITSELF makes a *ka-chink!* sound, too
>
> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Remote
>
>
> PS - Wii is compatible with GameCube game discs, controllers and
> memory sticks.
> It also has a download area where you can purchase classic Nintendo,
> SuperNintendo, Sega Genesis, TurboGraphics(?) and Nintendo64 titles.
> So it's ALSO nicely backwards-compatible. >:^)
>
> PPS - Yes, I really want a Wii. No budget this Christmas, though. :(
>
> --
> -bill!
> bill at newbreedsoftware.com
> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/
>
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