[conspire] Discussion: Using LLMs the Right Way: 10/1/2025 7pm Eastern Daylight time

[Les Faby]

Oregon is not getting as much rain so hydro power output is probably
shrinking.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025, 12:49 PM Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Ivan Sergio Borgonovo said on Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:54:40 +0200
>
> >On 10/5/25 3:59 AM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 4, 2025, at 12:32, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand the point of the preceding paragraph.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you could get one of them fancy LLMs to explain it to you.
> >
> >DONE
> >
> >This situation in Oregon is highly relevant to Large Language Models
> >(LLMs) and data centers because it highlights the growing **conflict
> >between the massive energy demands of the tech industry, particularly
> >AI, and the capacity and cost of the public power grid.**
>
> [snip the exact and concise answer to my question]
>
> Ivan, thanks for answering my question.
>
> Ideally, I don't think they should ban LLMs and datacenters, but
> instead have graduated rates with top rates, for big gross consumers
> only, of $10.00/Megawatt. By doing this, big business would think twice
> about carpetbagging cheap Oregon electricity, and who knows, maybe it
> would give a rate *cut* to small lower and middle class electricity
> consuming humans. I think California should do this too. I think every
> state should.
>
> Also, look at https://poweroutage.us/electricity-rates and notice that
> pretty much ever state charges commercial users less than residential
> users. This is a perverse travesty that should be fixed right away.
>
> Now this suggestion will cost me a lot of money, because that MF
> Desantis will call it "woke", increase the discounts for large
> commercial users, and invite commercial gross consumers to move their
> data centers to Florida. But my loss is society's gain, so the right
> thing is to charge graduated rates with top consumers paying
> exorbitant rates.
>
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