[conspire] Discussion: Using LLMs the Right Way: 10/1/2025 7pm Eastern Daylight time

[Ivan Sergio Borgonovo]

On 10/3/25 12:25 AM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
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>> On Oct 2, 2025, at 14:00, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
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>> In my opinion, you've stated the one undisputable disadvantage of LLMs.
> 
> I hadn’t begun to scratch the surface of my objections.
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> We are *all* going to be paying more for water, more for clean air, more for silence, and more for energy because of some negligible benefits to some small sectors of the economy. That’s effectively a very real tax on all of us, and for what?
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> IMHO, the *entire* reason LLMs are being funded by venture capitalists is that it is forcing tech companies to put the brakes on climate change mitigation steps they’d been undertaking (that were making things better for all of us).

Not that I haven't seen some very convoluted strategy from our 
overlords... but Don Marti explanation seems way more logical and the 
fact that it is contributing to push the need for more energy is just a 
welcomed side effect for all the rentiers.

How we got here it's not even hard to understand...

Most of BigTech lives on advertising. Targeted advertising need to 
understand text, they had access to lot of text etc...
They were already producing a lot of slop with much simpler bots.

Advertising is also important for politics...

But now all this slop is showing its limit.

Revenue vs. stock value now is hard to justify.
They need to find something to increase their margin and push their stocks.

Fire people. Get into a new bubble.

People are justifiably angry but blame the tool (that is just an 
incremental advancement in technology, not a revolution) and not how it 
is used, why and by whom.
The latter is responsible for all the side effects, not the tool.
The tool is fine and reasonably useful.

BTW I agree with Ron, nuclear is another speculation and another attempt 
to create choke points for rentiers

https://pluralistic.net/2025/10/02/there-goes-the-sun/

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Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
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