[conspire] OT (geopolitics) So much winning

[Josef Grosch]

On 2/22/25 08:18, Steve Litt wrote:
> Rev Anon said on Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:08:12 -0800
>
>> We were warned for years.  Back when the voting rights bill got zeroed
>> by an ass senator from WV, we knew this was coming.  Greg Palast
>> documented the millions who got their ballots purged putting
>> Republicans in charge.  (there's a little known government agency that
>> counts such things as purged ballots)  C'est la vie. Democracy is over
>> get used to it.  Perhaps the view looks dark but we can hope the west
>> coast will unite and secede from the fascist new fed?  West coast
>> exit!  Get your pitch-forks ready!
> This is a serious question: Does California have nuclear weapons? If
> you do, you can secede at will. If you don't, LA, SF, Long Beach and
> San Diego will get nuked the moment of secession. It's not necessary to
> have 5MT city busters, if you can deliver 40KT to Texas cities, that's
> good enough for a peaceful secession.
>
tl;dr

Sorry, this ignores a simple fact, nuclear explosions tend to do serious 
damage to the place that the explosion happened, not to mention the 
people. The value of California is the 40 million people, the 
infrastructure, and the value AKA GDP it generates. If California were a 
nation it would have the 4th or 5th largest economy, depend on the 
numbers you are looking at. A couple of nuclear blasts and we have an 
economy that would make Somalia look prosperous. The ports at Long Beach 
and Los Angeles have over 17 million TEUs 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit) coming 
through every year. Take that out and a major piece of the US economy 
goes to shit.

Speaking as a supporter of Cascadia 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement), and for a bonus round 
read "The Nine Nations Of North America" 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Nations_of_North_America), I 
recognize there is no legal mechanism for secession. There will never be 
a legal mechanism, especially when the federal legislators from the red 
state realize that without money coming from the blue states, the red 
states become Somalia. For Alabama and Mississippi that is next week.

In my opinion there is an alternative to secession, what I call 
disengagement, that is stop having anything to do with the red states.  
Keep in mind, 70% of GDP in this country is consumer spending. Stop 
spending money with the red states, only do business with the blue 
states and counties. Encourage educated young people to leave the red 
states for the blue states, a brain drain. Emphasize to women that we in 
the blue states will stay out of their uterus.

Oh, another thing, stop electing bog standard Democrats, their balls 
dropped of during the Reagan administration. The only ones who have 
anything resembling a spine is AOC and Sanders.


Josef

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