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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/25 08:18, Steve Litt wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Rev Anon said on Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:08:12 -0800
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">We were warned for years. Back when the voting rights bill got zeroed
by an ass senator from WV, we knew this was coming. Greg Palast
documented the millions who got their ballots purged putting
Republicans in charge. (there's a little known government agency that
counts such things as purged ballots) C'est la vie. Democracy is over
get used to it. Perhaps the view looks dark but we can hope the west
coast will unite and secede from the fascist new fed? West coast
exit! Get your pitch-forks ready!
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This is a serious question: Does California have nuclear weapons? If
you do, you can secede at will. If you don't, LA, SF, Long Beach and
San Diego will get nuked the moment of secession. It's not necessary to
have 5MT city busters, if you can deliver 40KT to Texas cities, that's
good enough for a peaceful secession.
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<p>Sorry, this ignores a simple fact, nuclear explosions tend to do
serious damage to the place that the explosion happened, not to
mention the people. The value of California is the 40 million
people, the infrastructure, and the value AKA GDP it generates. If
California were a nation it would have the 4th or 5th largest
economy, depend on the numbers you are looking at. A couple of
nuclear blasts and we have an economy that would make <span
class="expandableItem">Somalia look</span> prosperous. The ports
at Long Beach and Los Angeles have over 17 million TEUs
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit</a>) coming
through every year. Take that out and a major piece of the US
economy goes to shit. </p>
<p>Speaking as a supporter of Cascadia
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement</a>), and for a bonus
round read "The Nine Nations Of North America"
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Nations_of_North_America">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Nations_of_North_America</a>),
I recognize there is no legal mechanism for secession. There will
never be a legal mechanism, especially when the federal
legislators from the red state realize that without money coming
from the blue states, the red states become Somalia. For Alabama
and Mississippi that is next week.<br>
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<p>In my opinion there is an alternative to secession, what I call
disengagement, that is stop having anything to do with the red
states. Keep in mind, 70% of GDP in this country is consumer
spending. Stop spending money with the red states, only do
business with the blue states and counties. Encourage educated
young people to leave the red states for the blue states, a brain
drain. Emphasize to women that we in the blue states will stay out
of their uterus.</p>
<p>Oh, another thing, stop electing bog standard Democrats, their
balls dropped of during the Reagan administration. The only ones
who have anything resembling a spine is AOC and Sanders. </p>
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<p>Josef <br>
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Josef Grosch | Another day closer |
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jgrosch@gmail.com">jgrosch@gmail.com</a> | to Redwood Heaven | Berkeley, Ca.
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