[conspire] 1:2.1.29-1+deb10u5? Re: upgrade-in-place to Mailman 2.1.30 and want to test Mailman3?

[Michael Paoli]

So, reading more writing on the wall ...
perhaps the way to go is NVMe storage +
(in case of e.g. guido) NVMe to SATA adapters, the latter of which look
to be plentiful and inexpensive.  That would allow for both
forward-compatibility on one's storage investment, while also allowing
for backwards compatibility of one's NVMe storage (via such adapter(s)).
That may be better solution both practically and investment-wise, than
getting further SSD drives that are themselves directly SATA at this
point.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 11:27 PM Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>
> I wrote:
>
> > If quality USB + eSATA enclosures for 2.5" drives have become
> > unobtainium on the new-retail market over the last 11 years, I will be a
> > sad panda.  That would suck.  (Haven't yet looked up the state of those.)
>
> This qualifies:  "Delock model 42544 Multi-Port [eSATA(p), USB 3.1 G2]
> External Enclosure for SATA 6Gb/s".
> https://www.synchrotech.com/products-storage/delock-42544-series-sata-drive-enclosures-superspeed-usb-3.1-esatap_01.html
>
>   A stylish and sturdy aluminum enclosure by Delock, the 42544 enables
>   you to install a 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s HDD or SSD, and provides up to 5
>   different options for connecting via its special Multiport USB 3.1 +
>   eSATAp interface. The Multiport interface combines eSATA and Super Speed
>   USB 10Gbps (USB 3.1 Gen. 2) interfaces, supporting fast data transfers,
>   with voltages of up to 5V for bus powered operation. For SATA, which
>   doesn't provide bus power, the unit comes with a USB to enclosure power
>   cable.
>
>   Features
>   Connect via eSATAp, USB or eSATA interfaces
>   Supports 2.5" HDD, SSD, and SSHD devices
>
>   [...]
>
>   Connecting Options
>   USB 3.1 Gen.2 (Power via USB)
>   USB 3.0 (Power via USB)
>   USB 2.0 (Power via USB)
>   eSATAp (Power Over eSATA combo-connection eSATA+USB - eSATA for data and USB for power
>   eSATA (eSATA for data and power via included USB power cable)
>
>   [...]
>
>   Physical Dimensions
>   Dimensions: 136 x 80 x 21 mm (LWD)
>   HDD height up to 15 mm (LWD)
>
>   Power Requirements
>   5V or USB Bus Power (Use both cables when deploying eSATAp or eSATA)
>
>   [...]
>
>   Package Includes
>   External enclosure
>   USB 3.0-A/A cable
>   eSATAp cable
>   USB to barrel power cable
>   Screws/Screwdriver
>   User Guide
>
> I was leery of this until I looked up what an "eSATAp" connector is.  It
> really is a clever thing.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp
>
> A pair of them would set me back about $115 (including tax and shipping).
>
>
> Strictly speaking, the CompuLab's RAIDed pair of external SSDs don't
> need enclosures, as long as compatible SATA connector/cables plug into
> the drives, and the drives themselves somehow are fed drive power.  (As
> mentioned above, SATA cables, or more precisely SATA _data_ cables, do
> not transport power, only data.)
>
> A SATA drive's power-in connector is a bespoke 15-pin port that accept
> a 3.3V, 5V or 12V DC input socket -- as destinct from the 7-pin data-in
> port.  https://www.technewstoday.com/how-to-connect-sata-power-cable/
> On the existing Vantec drive cases, I supply power via their USB
> sockets, a common solution.  (There are also cheap 4-pin Molex to
> SATA-power converter cables.  Which I suppose is great if you have some
> random ATX PSU sitting around.)
> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-install-sata-hard-drive/
>
>
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