[conspire] (forw) Re: [Felton LUG] Oh boy, this doesn't look good...

[Ruben Safir]

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:55:48AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
> 
> > 100% and that control is excersized by root.
> 
> If you control _when_ root is able to modify the boot chain, obviously
> you gain an additional degree of system protection, e.g., against
> interference by root-authority processes and persons messing with the
> boot chain without the owner's approval.  Again, this should be
> self-evident.
> 
> UEFI Secure Boot being a system where Microsoft alone has the keys to 
> sign bootloaders is very annoying.  That is obviously a limitation built
> into the design, and is one reason why I ignore Secure Boot (among
> others).  That having been said, several bootloader efforts have done
> the one-time annoyance of getting their code MSFT-signed, so anyone who 
> chooses to use it to fully control the boot chain, and prevent even a 
> hostile local console user (or malware executed with root authority)
> from interfering from boot, can now do so.
> 
> I don't choose to use that.  You don't choose to do that.  However, the
> advantage is obvious (albeit not IMO compelling for any use-case of mine).
> 
> Is your mind flexible enough to understand that some things have
> undeniable benefits, even though you (and I) have compelling reasons to
> not like them?  Or are you determined to be a fugghead?
> 

Fugghead.  I am a fugghead and a cone head
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