[conspire] When to get a covid test, brains, and a weird case, and a cardiology vs. immunology joke

[Elise Scher]

So Ruben, why don't you believe it?

Elise Scher

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 10:16 PM Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 09:42:28PM -0700, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
> > Note: I saved the article with the good joke for last. :P
> >
> > Optimum time to get a nasal swab test (not the at home type, which is
> less accurate):
> >
> > tl;dr: 2-4 days after first symptoms, see figure 2
> >
> > https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1495
> >
> >
> > Truly depressing subject: structural brain changes in covid patients.
> Very technical neuroscience.
> >
> >
> https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30228-5/fulltext
> >
>
> Don't believe it.
>
>
> > Study findings revealed possible disruption to micro-structural and
> functional brain integrity in the recovery stages of COVID-19, suggesting
> the long-term consequences of SARS-CoV-2. (In *most* of the people.)
> >
> >
> > For the truly horrifying one-off, though:
> >
> > https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160770v1
> >
> > Autoimmune Encephalitis Presenting with Acute Excited Catatonia in a
> 40-Year-Old Male Patient with Covid-19
> >
> > > We are not aware of other types of encephalitis with such distinct
> pyramidal tract symptoms and raise the possibility that this may be a novel
> form of autoimmune encephalitis induced by infection with SARS-CoV-2.
> >
> > (pyramidal tract being motor control systems, encephalitis is
> inflammation of at least part of the brain; in this case, several parts
> were involved)
> >
> >
> > And, for the lightest piece, the Atlantic piece, which opens with a
> funny cardiologist vs. immunologist joke:
> >
> >
> https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/covid-19-immunity-is-the-pandemics-central-mystery/614956/
> >
> > I had noticed this in papers and wondered if I’d missed something, so
> glad to know I didn’t:
> >
> > > Normally, the immune system mobilizes different groups of cells and
> molecules when fighting three broad groups of pathogens: viruses and
> microbes that invade cells, bacteria and fungi that stay outside cells, and
> parasitic worms. Only the first of these programs should activate during a
> viral infection. But Iwasaki’s team recently showed that all three activate
> in severe COVID-19 cases. “It seems completely random,” she says. In the
> worst cases, “the immune system almost seems confused as to what it’s
> supposed to be making.”
> >
> >
> > Also, it links to a piece about the long haulers, of which I am one.
> Still symptomatic after 6-1/2 months. :(
> >
> >
> https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-coronavirus-longterm-symptoms-months/612679/
> >
> > Wound up in the ER 2-1/2 weeks ago with a high heart rate and put on a
> heart monitor. :O Ever since covid, I’ve had an occasional random high
> heart rate. Waiting to hear back what the results are and so forth.
> But…yeah, this disease sucks.
> >
> > Deirdre
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