[conspire] Let's look at fluview

[Don Marti]

On 4/28/20 10:52 AM, Tony Godshall wrote:
> You are citing NYPost as a source?  The one created by right wing 
> propaganda types to sew confusion between the Washington Post and the 
> New York Times?

Alexander Hamilton?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post#19th_century


> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 10:19 AM Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com 
> <mailto:ruben at mrbrklyn.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Almost as if one cue, our department is in the news today
> 
> 
>     https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/
> 
>     Ive worked the coronavirus front line  and I say its time to start
>     opening up
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 07:30:47AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
>      > On 4/27/20 7:09 PM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
>      > > ending April 11, and how different that is from prior flu
>     seasons, even the really bad one two years ago.
>      >
>      > 1968 was the last really bad one as far as I know.  I've been
>     doing this
>      > for work for the last month, and I sort of petered out on this at
>     this
>      > point.  I pretty much wrote the points I wanted to make on
>      > brooklyn-living and nothing that this virus has done has suprised
>     me or
>      > been off my back of the envelope predictions, even before I was
>     sort of
>      > drafted into work.  This virus will reach, or actually already has
>      > reached, saturation.  They will not get a vaccination in time because
>      > they don't care.  If they did they would be running thousands of
>     tests a
>      > week, not a dozen.  Drug trials are riddled with cronie politics,
>     as it
>      > always is, and we see obvious inappropraite actions in this
>     regard.  The
>      > public messaging is constant hysteria.  Even in the worst case, this
>      > virus isn't, or shouldn't be, a civilization destroying and yet
>     here we
>      > are...
>      >
>      > When at work, I've noticed two kinds of attitude.  Hysterical crazy
>      > attiitudes by people who can't live without a cellphone attached to
>      > their hips, hanging on every word of every politiician, and that had
>      > never seen a real epidemic, and those of us who lived and worked
>     through
>      > the early HIV epidmenic, who are much less excited.  Most of us
>     are old
>      > at this point.
>      >
>      > You can bet your tuchas if this epidemeic actually was having people
>      > drop dead in the streets, like Anthrax, we wouldn't be having
>     long press
>      > conferences, and every bodega in the city open selling potato chips,
>      > liquor and cigerettes.  They would be isolating disease active
>     disease
>      > pockets with a complete shutdown using real maps and real cops,
>     without
>      > notice or warning.  As for when this will be over, I expect in
>     about a
>      > year and a  half, which sort of makes no sense because I think we are
>      > saturated, but the lock down is not going to make this virus just go
>      > away.  It will likely mutate twice, and everything we do seems to be
>      > begging to make it more virulent.
>      >
>      > One thing I am certain of, the idea that if we all stayed locked
>     up for
>      > the next year and the virus will just go away, that is not happening.
>      > You better sacrifice your lambs and put blood on you door post.  You
>      > will be luckier.
>      >
>      > If your right, however, Deidre, we are all going to die anyway. 
>     It is
>      > not what viruses that have high R0 values generally do, since it
>     is self
>      > defeating.  But without immunity, everybody dies.
>      >
>      > If that is the case, I want to see Hanmilton this week and catch a
>      > really big fish.
>      >
>      > --
>      > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>      > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>      > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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>      > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>      >
>      > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>      > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>      >
>      > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
>      > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>      >
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>     -- 
>     So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>     that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>     proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>     http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> 
>     DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>     http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
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>     http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> 
>     Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
>     but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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