[conspire] Let's look at fluview
Tony Godshall
tony at of.net
Tue Apr 28 10:52:03 PDT 2020
You are citing NYPost as a source? The one created by right wing
propaganda types to sew confusion between the Washington Post and the New
York Times?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 10:19 AM Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> Almost as if one cue, our department is in the news today
>
>
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> https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/
>
> Ive worked the coronavirus front line and I say its time to start
> opening up
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 07:30:47AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On 4/27/20 7:09 PM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
> > > ending April 11, and how different that is from prior flu seasons,
> even the really bad one two years ago.
> >
> > 1968 was the last really bad one as far as I know. I've been doing this
> > for work for the last month, and I sort of petered out on this at this
> > point. I pretty much wrote the points I wanted to make on
> > brooklyn-living and nothing that this virus has done has suprised me or
> > been off my back of the envelope predictions, even before I was sort of
> > drafted into work. This virus will reach, or actually already has
> > reached, saturation. They will not get a vaccination in time because
> > they don't care. If they did they would be running thousands of tests a
> > week, not a dozen. Drug trials are riddled with cronie politics, as it
> > always is, and we see obvious inappropraite actions in this regard. The
> > public messaging is constant hysteria. Even in the worst case, this
> > virus isn't, or shouldn't be, a civilization destroying and yet here we
> > are...
> >
> > When at work, I've noticed two kinds of attitude. Hysterical crazy
> > attiitudes by people who can't live without a cellphone attached to
> > their hips, hanging on every word of every politiician, and that had
> > never seen a real epidemic, and those of us who lived and worked through
> > the early HIV epidmenic, who are much less excited. Most of us are old
> > at this point.
> >
> > You can bet your tuchas if this epidemeic actually was having people
> > drop dead in the streets, like Anthrax, we wouldn't be having long press
> > conferences, and every bodega in the city open selling potato chips,
> > liquor and cigerettes. They would be isolating disease active disease
> > pockets with a complete shutdown using real maps and real cops, without
> > notice or warning. As for when this will be over, I expect in about a
> > year and a half, which sort of makes no sense because I think we are
> > saturated, but the lock down is not going to make this virus just go
> > away. It will likely mutate twice, and everything we do seems to be
> > begging to make it more virulent.
> >
> > One thing I am certain of, the idea that if we all stayed locked up for
> > the next year and the virus will just go away, that is not happening.
> > You better sacrifice your lambs and put blood on you door post. You
> > will be luckier.
> >
> > If your right, however, Deidre, we are all going to die anyway. It is
> > not what viruses that have high R0 values generally do, since it is self
> > defeating. But without immunity, everybody dies.
> >
> > If that is the case, I want to see Hanmilton this week and catch a
> > really big fish.
> >
> > --
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >
> > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >
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> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
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> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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