[conspire] no privacy

[paulz at ieee.org]

Creating a FB account can be unnecessarily complicated.

A while ago, one ofmy wife’s friends told her about an informal group. They use FB to plan when and where. Someone in thegroup contacted my wife and asked for her facebook name. Apparentlythere were several similar names already. 

So I helped Cathycreate an account. Used the name that she goes by in the physicalworld.  Filled out the obvious details.  Then we found one group and left a message that she plannedto attend. Several days later, she tried to log back into Facebook,but the account was blocked. They wanted a photo. After somesearching, I found some pictures that were already on the Internet. I was thinking that would be good because FB should be able to findthose pictures. 

A few days later, wetried again to log into FB. The account was still blocked. Now theywere asking for “photo ID”.I’m thinking, dowe really want to scan her driver’s license?  So we didn’t doanything at that time.

Several days later,the account was totally blocked. She was banned for failure tocomply with their terms and conditions and told that she could not try againusing the same name.

One a related matter, Firefox is now suggesting creating an account with them.  Any thoughts?


    On Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 3:58:08 PM PST, Don Marti <dmarti at zgp.org> wrote:  
 
 On 2/12/19 10:25 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Don Marti (dmarti at zgp.org):
> 
>> Yes, Facebook makes "shadow profiles" of people who aren't
>> registered users and have not clicked "OK" to the terms of service.
>> Hella creepy.
> 
> I vaguely recall that, _somewhere_, Charles Stross has an argument for
> why everyone ought to create a Faceplant profile solely to put on record
> 'No, you may not datamine and share photograph metadata mentioning my
> name'.

I'm thinking about establishing an account for [relationship redacted] 
next time I'm in a European country with a hard-assed privacy commissar, 
and can connect it to an address and burner phone there.

> Beyond that, people who willingly deal with Faceplant, Inc.
> after all that's happened -- including the latest revelations, described
> below -- amaze me for values of 'amaze' approximating 'I had no idea
> anyone was _that_ stupid'.  (Google, Inc., is also culpable in the
> below-detailed matter, but only to an order of magnitude lower degree of
> cheekiness and breathtaking overstepping of boundaries.)

Nabisco did a full oven overhaul and recipe change for Oreo cookies when 
only a single-digit percentage of US cookie buyers don't eat lard. 
Principled refusers can make a surprisingly large impact on markets for 
goods and services that are consumed by groups.

Don

> Good layman's summary, here:
> https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/01/facebook-google-scandal/
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre at deirdre.net> -----
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:11:24 -0800
> From: Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre at deirdre.net>
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple revoked Google's and Facebook's Enterprise developer
> 
> Long story short: they were using them more broadly than their
> certificate permitted. Issue here is that the enterprise certificates
> allow more deep info on the device use (because it's usually a company
> device) -- but those apps went to customers.
> 
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/31/apple-google-gander
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/31/google-vpn-privacy
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/30/apple-facebook-dev-certs
> 
> And the best link:
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/29/facebook-teens-vpn
> 
> "Since 2016, Facebook has been paying users ages 13 to 35 up to $20 per
> month plus referral fees to sell their privacy by installing the iOS or
> Android 'Facebook Research' app. Facebook even asked users to screenshot
> their Amazon order history page."
> 
> Deirdre
> 
> 
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