[conspire] no privacy

[Don Marti]

On 2/12/19 10:25 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Don Marti (dmarti at zgp.org):
> 
>> Yes, Facebook makes "shadow profiles" of people who aren't
>> registered users and have not clicked "OK" to the terms of service.
>> Hella creepy.
> 
> I vaguely recall that, _somewhere_, Charles Stross has an argument for
> why everyone ought to create a Faceplant profile solely to put on record
> 'No, you may not datamine and share photograph metadata mentioning my
> name'.

I'm thinking about establishing an account for [relationship redacted] 
next time I'm in a European country with a hard-assed privacy commissar, 
and can connect it to an address and burner phone there.

> Beyond that, people who willingly deal with Faceplant, Inc.
> after all that's happened -- including the latest revelations, described
> below -- amaze me for values of 'amaze' approximating 'I had no idea
> anyone was _that_ stupid'.  (Google, Inc., is also culpable in the
> below-detailed matter, but only to an order of magnitude lower degree of
> cheekiness and breathtaking overstepping of boundaries.)

Nabisco did a full oven overhaul and recipe change for Oreo cookies when 
only a single-digit percentage of US cookie buyers don't eat lard. 
Principled refusers can make a surprisingly large impact on markets for 
goods and services that are consumed by groups.

Don

> Good layman's summary, here:
> https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/01/facebook-google-scandal/
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre at deirdre.net> -----
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:11:24 -0800
> From: Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre at deirdre.net>
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple revoked Google's and Facebook's Enterprise developer
> 
> Long story short: they were using them more broadly than their
> certificate permitted. Issue here is that the enterprise certificates
> allow more deep info on the device use (because it's usually a company
> device) -- but those apps went to customers.
> 
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/31/apple-google-gander
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/31/google-vpn-privacy
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/30/apple-facebook-dev-certs
> 
> And the best link:
> https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/01/29/facebook-teens-vpn
> 
> "Since 2016, Facebook has been paying users ages 13 to 35 up to $20 per
> month plus referral fees to sell their privacy by installing the iOS or
> Android 'Facebook Research' app. Facebook even asked users to screenshot
> their Amazon order history page."
> 
> Deirdre
> 
> 
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