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Mike Higashi mhigashi at gmail.com
Wed Jan 3 15:12:22 PST 2018


Wasn't Struts how Equifax got breached?

Mike


On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> I don't know why I'm suddenly being nice to Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, but
> there
> you have it.
>
> ----- Forwarded message from "Baskin, Mikhail" [an address at
> morganstanley.com]  -----
>
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:49:28 +0000
> From: "Baskin, Mikhail" [an address at morganstanley.com]
> To: "respond-auto at linuxmafia.com" <respond-auto at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Struts latest release
>
> Hi Rick.
> We at Morgan Stanley using Struts 1 for our Java application.
> I am trying to justify a project to rewrite to Java 2.
> The management  ask me to find out "the deadline"  Struts 1  can not be
> used anymore.
>
> Can you, please, give us approximate date ?
>
> Thanks.
> Mikhail Baskin.
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> ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> -----
>
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:43:51 -0800
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> To: "Baskin, Mikhail" [an address at morganstanley.com]
> Subject: Re: Struts latest release
> Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
>
> Quoting Baskin, Mikhail [an address at morganstanley.com]:
>
> > Hi Rick.
> > We at Morgan Stanley using Struts 1 for our Java application.
> > I am trying to justify a project to rewrite to Java 2.
> > The management  ask me to find out "the deadline"  Struts 1  can not be
> used anymore.
> >
> > Can you, please, give us approximate date ?
>
> I'm sorry to say, Mr. Baskin, that I'm the wrong person to ask.  The
> e-mail address at which you reached me, "respond-auto at linuxmafia.com",
> appears in exactly one place, at the top of an online essay, 'How to Ask
> Questions the Smart Way' I co-wrote with Eric S. Raymond.  I am
> guessing that a J2EE project's Web help pages hyperlinks to Eric's and my
> essay on Eric's Web site, which you assumed was part of that J2EE
> project's help pages, and clicked on my author link to ask my help.
>
> In fact, I think I just found the link you must have followed.  It's
> at https://struts.apache.org/mail.html , near page bottom.
>
> Unfortunately, although I'm involved with the software industry
> (DevOps), I have no connection to J2EE and no knowledge of when Struts
> v. 1 will be end-of-lifed.  I'm merely co-author of an essay.
>
> Web-searching 'struts 1 eol' finds various possible links including:
> https://struts.apache.org/struts1eol-announcement.html
>
> I infer an answer to your question -- but please bear in mind I'm
> speaking an educated guess as an outsider, and my answer has absolutely
> zero authority:  You can still use Struts 1 indefinitely but at your
> peril, because it ceased having security and bug fixes effective
> April 5, 2013.  Since then, almost five years, it has been completely
> unmaintained.
>
> Apache Foundation offers Struts 2 as a replacement Web framework, and
> credibly claims it is mature, modern, well featured, and well
> maintained.  The difficulty, of course, is that it's not even remotely
> close to a drop-in replacement.  Alternatives, as they say on the link
> cited above, include Spring Web MVC, Grails, and Stripe.
>
> I hope this guesstimated answer on my part proves useful, and wish you
> good fortune with the softwar engineering effort.
>
> For reference, 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way' is at
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> --
> Cheers,                     « Le doute n'est pas une état bien agréable,
> mais
> Rick Moen                   l'assurance est un état ridicule. »  ("Doubt
> is not
> rick at linuxmafia.com         a pleasant condition, but certainty is
> absurd.')
> McQ! (4x80)                                                       --
> Voltaire
>
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