[conspire] (forw) Re: [Lug-nuts] New laser printer recommendations?

[Ruben Safir]

On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 06:40:00PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 02:31:20PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Relevant to recent thread, one guy's opinion.  Looks to me like your
> > basic relatively OK cheapo colour unit, compromises being particularly
> > apparent in buffer RAM (256MB) and print language (PCL5e but no
> > PostScript).  Claimed resolution is really good.
> > 
> > But notice this:  This guy makes ZERO attempt to guesstimate future cost
> > of toner supplies per page.  Like the HP 2605 series discussed here, the
> > Ricoh unit needs 4 colour toner cartridges.  What's the money cost, then?  
> > No attempt to even guess.  And this is where printer choice most often goes
> > wrong -- blindness to one of the most crucial concerns, and the one
> > where people most often cheat themselves.
> > 
> > On the HP, a full set of four was, you may recall, about $100 if you use
> > third-party rather than HP-branded supplies, and if I'd been serious
> > about evaluating it, I'd also try to estimate page count for a toner
> > set.  For this Ricoh unit, _each_ colour cartridge appears to be about
> > $100, but I don't know offhand how many sheets that prints.
> > 
> > If I were comparison-shopping, I'd try to figure that out.
> > 
> 
> eh, the observation about the dust might be right, I did have that
> problem, but the 551 is another beast altogether.  I'm quiet proud of it
> and I've only replaced 1 cartige in 3 years, the black.
> 
> I don't trust the page counts by the manufactorers, and certainly I
> wanted PS capability.
> 
> We used a small subset of PS as a language for my compiler class... that
> is implementing PS.  Baring some disaster, I doubt I will ever buy
> another laserjet.  Price fixing alone makes me think that page counts
> won't vary that greatly.  A wide number of clone cartriages is another
> important consideration, although chosing an ink supplier is a another
> problem.  The Pharmacy used a HP M452 which printed out all day long/7
> days a week.  There is no way a rinkie dink Rioch would handle that dust
> filled environment to print RXs and reports all day and afford decent
> clone print cartrigages.
> 

Correction the Pharmacy printer is was a P2035.  Mine is a whole 'nather
class
> > 
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> > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 16:35:06 -0800
> > From: linus at fullsack.com
> > To: lug-nuts at saclug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Lug-nuts] New laser printer recommendations?
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> > Burnt through two hp network color laser printers, decided they
> > just don't make them like they used to, leaking toner everywhere, just
> > nasty. Bought a Ricoh Aficio SP C320DN PS brand new on overstock.com
> > Best printer ever, makes the hp 2500n it replaced look sick. Just
> > checked they got a run on these:
> > https://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Ricoh-SP-C250SF-Laser-Multifunction-Printer-Color-Plain-Paper-Pri/8984303/product.html?refccid=O3HWJXWG2P22PXSF5PWKLBU2A4&searchidx=3
> > YMMV dunno that model or anything but that move really did me right,
> > all I'm sayin'. YMMV
> > 
> > [snip upside-down quoting of the upthread question about what's a good
> > multifunction printer, these days, i.e., fax, photocopier, printer]
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DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive 
http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
http://www.brooklyn-living.com 

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, 
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013