[conspire] Zotac and Shuttle and Asu, oh my (durability)

[Dana Goyette]

HP's parts store is at http://partsurfer.hp.com.  You can search there by
the system's SKU, then buy the part there, or grab the part number to
search other sellers.

On Dec 6, 2017 7:41 AM, "Daniel Gimpelevich" <
daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 08:57 -0800, Tony Godshall wrote:
> > > Example 2:  My new toy the Zotac, at minimum, has appallingly bad
> > > prospects for I/O expansion when viewed as a server.  Mass storage
> > > on a _quality_ interface is limited to exactly one SATA connector.
> > > Possibly, one might also count additional storage in the SD/SDHC/SDXC
> > > card reader, though I'm not sure about speed.  External storage is
> > > possible only on USB.  (But it's pretty damned good for $125 w/ 1 year
> > > mfr. warranty.)
> >
> > By the way, we've had very disappointing results with the durability
> > of Zotac units as workstations.  We're back to Shuttle DS68U and DX30
> > units.  Single laptop-size hard drive, dual laptop-size memory sticks
> > fanless.  We also like the fact that we've had no driver troubles with
> > any of the hardware and they have serial ports and even PS/2 and VGA
> > which helps in terms of swapping out old machines, giving workstation
> > machines a second life as interfaces legacy industrial equipment etc.
> > (DX30 needs a header cable for VGA, order it with).
> >
> > Other units we've been disappointed with durability are Lenovo Q180
> > and Q190 and ASUS EB1021.  A lot of the issues seem to have been
> > fan and heat-related, so the fanless nature of the Shuttle's should be a
> > benefit.
>
> I ended up getting a refurb HP t730 Thin Client with a 16GB M.2 drive
> for close to what I would've spent on an APU2 for gateway/router use,
> and I put a $20 quad Intel 350 NIC in its slot, because the onboard is
> Realtek. The much larger L2 cache than the APU2 has can come in very
> handy if I have the thing running any crypto, but it seems to idle at
> 17W on the Kill-A-Watt, which isn't great for an always-on device, but
> it could be a lot worse. Fanless would've been nice, but barring the
> APU2, I would've had to compromise too much. Thoughts on these in
> comparison to the Zotac and Shuttle units?
>
> This one does not have the wifi card, which is ubiquitous on eBay and
> elsewhere, but unfortunately, the internal antennae that mount to the
> chassis are not. The only info I have on the antennae is on page 19 of
> this PDF:
> http://h22235.www2.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/
> environment/productdata/Countries/_MultiCountry/disassembly_deskto_
> 201511423012668.pdf
> Any chance somebody knows a place where dead units get sent where I
> might fetch those exact antennae? I don't want to mount generic ones
> randomly.
>
>
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