<div dir="auto">HP's parts store is at <a href="http://partsurfer.hp.com">http://partsurfer.hp.com</a>. You can search there by the system's SKU, then buy the part there, or grab the part number to search other sellers.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 6, 2017 7:41 AM, "Daniel Gimpelevich" <<a href="mailto:daniel@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us">daniel@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 08:57 -0800, Tony Godshall wrote:<br>
> > Example 2: My new toy the Zotac, at minimum, has appallingly bad<br>
> > prospects for I/O expansion when viewed as a server. Mass storage<br>
> > on a _quality_ interface is limited to exactly one SATA connector.<br>
> > Possibly, one might also count additional storage in the SD/SDHC/SDXC<br>
> > card reader, though I'm not sure about speed. External storage is<br>
> > possible only on USB. (But it's pretty damned good for $125 w/ 1 year<br>
> > mfr. warranty.)<br>
><br>
> By the way, we've had very disappointing results with the durability<br>
> of Zotac units as workstations. We're back to Shuttle DS68U and DX30<br>
> units. Single laptop-size hard drive, dual laptop-size memory sticks<br>
> fanless. We also like the fact that we've had no driver troubles with<br>
> any of the hardware and they have serial ports and even PS/2 and VGA<br>
> which helps in terms of swapping out old machines, giving workstation<br>
> machines a second life as interfaces legacy industrial equipment etc.<br>
> (DX30 needs a header cable for VGA, order it with).<br>
><br>
> Other units we've been disappointed with durability are Lenovo Q180<br>
> and Q190 and ASUS EB1021. A lot of the issues seem to have been<br>
> fan and heat-related, so the fanless nature of the Shuttle's should be a<br>
> benefit.<br>
<br>
I ended up getting a refurb HP t730 Thin Client with a 16GB M.2 drive<br>
for close to what I would've spent on an APU2 for gateway/router use,<br>
and I put a $20 quad Intel 350 NIC in its slot, because the onboard is<br>
Realtek. The much larger L2 cache than the APU2 has can come in very<br>
handy if I have the thing running any crypto, but it seems to idle at<br>
17W on the Kill-A-Watt, which isn't great for an always-on device, but<br>
it could be a lot worse. Fanless would've been nice, but barring the<br>
APU2, I would've had to compromise too much. Thoughts on these in<br>
comparison to the Zotac and Shuttle units?<br>
<br>
This one does not have the wifi card, which is ubiquitous on eBay and<br>
elsewhere, but unfortunately, the internal antennae that mount to the<br>
chassis are not. The only info I have on the antennae is on page 19 of<br>
this PDF:<br>
<a href="http://h22235.www2.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdata/Countries/_MultiCountry/disassembly_deskto_201511423012668.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://h22235.www2.hp.com/<wbr>hpinfo/globalcitizenship/<wbr>environment/productdata/<wbr>Countries/_MultiCountry/<wbr>disassembly_deskto_<wbr>201511423012668.pdf</a><br>
Any chance somebody knows a place where dead units get sent where I<br>
might fetch those exact antennae? I don't want to mount generic ones<br>
randomly.<br>
<br>
<br>
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