[conspire] (forw) Re: Cabal

Thu Jul 7 15:27:45 PDT 2011

Hi Dave

Indeed, you'll want to inform anyone who
you would like to help you if your home
network has a static or dynamic (DHCP)
ip address, whether you want to run a web,
mail, ssh, or some other kind of server, and
whether you are hoping to be able to access
it by name (DNS), and if so have signed up
for the appropriate service from a general
domain name vendor (static) or dynamic DNS
vendor (such as dyndns.org), and whether you
understand the above issues well enough to
answer these essential questions.  If not, you
should probably start by reading the relevant
Wikipedia articles, such as

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/DHCP
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dynamic_DNS

and of course the relevant Rick Moen articles

Tony

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
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>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dave Pearce <daveryu at yahoo.com>
> To: rick at linuxmafia.com
> Subject: Cabal
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> Hi Rick,
>        I'm not sure that my last email went through.  I've run into delivery issues for the last few parts of my new box.  Hopefully everything will show up in time to make the get-together this Saturday.  In the event that they do not, is there a way to set up the main hard drive in another machine and transfer it into the new box when everything arrives?  It's a laptop drive powering a destop system in case that should make a difference.
>        In short, I'm building a power-efficient server for the house and wish to learn how to access it from anywhere on the web.  I'm willing to learn; can you teach a rank amateur how to set it all up?
>
> Dave
>
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> ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> -----
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:14:03 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> To: Dave Pearce <daveryu at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Cabal
> Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
>
> Quoting Dave Pearce (daveryu at yahoo.com):
>
>> I'm not sure that my last email went through.  I've run into delivery
>> issues for the last few parts of my new box.  Hopefully everything
>> will show up in time to make the get-together this Saturday.
>
> Hi, Dave!  Time flies.  Because of the Independence Day holiday, I'd
> actually forgotten that we had a CABAL date coming up.  (Yes, we indeed
> are having it.  Thank you for the reminder.)
>
>> In the event that they do not, is there a way to set up the main hard
>> drive in another machine and transfer it into the new box when
>> everything arrives?  It's a laptop drive powering a destop system in
>> case that should make a difference.
>
> Quibble:  I think you mean your desktop system powers your laptop hard
> drive, not the other way around.
>
> The short answer to your question is yes, provided the hard drive is
> old-type IDE (Parallel ATA = PATA), and that you have it mounted in an
> adapter/carrier that permits connecting it to desktop-type data and
> power connectors for PATA hard drives.
>
> No if the hard drive is Serial ATA = SATA, or if you for whatever reason
> lack an adapter/carrier converting the drive's laptop-type data/power
> connectors to desktop-type ones.
>
> To explain:  What I have on-hand is a sturdy old mid-tower PII 'StartX
> MP' box from VA Research (later renamed VA Linux Systems).  I also have
> a number of working/leftover 2U and 1U rackmount server machines.  CABAL
> member Jesse Monroy was kind enough to do triage recently on the
> leftover rackmount machines, so we know which ones are good.
>
> All of those machines can connect standard non-laptop 3.5" PATA drives,
> and many or possibly all are equipped for 3.5" SCSI.
>
>> In short, I'm building a power-efficient server for the house and wish
>> to learn how to access it from anywhere on the web.  I'm willing to
>> learn; can you teach a rank amateur how to set it all up?
>
> I and CABAL -- but see caveat, below -- can certainly give you a leg up
> on that.  It's a subject dear to my heart, as I actually keep intending
> to retire my power-sucking and ancient 2001-era hardware and replace it
> with something current -- but haven't had time.
>
> Part of the problem with your question is that discussion and planning
> can fork off in so many directions, depending on the scope of what
> your 'server for the house' will be doing.  People mean a variety of
> different things by that.  Your wording suggests that you mean for the
> machine to provide some service to the household's computers _and_
> to provide either services or administrative access or both from the
> global Internet.  All of that is certainly possible but requires some
> careful planning to make sure you know what you're doing and why and
> how.  It's particularly important, where the machine is to be accessible
> from the Internet, to consider security rather carefully.
>
> Caveat:  As the host and homeowner, I am by far the most interruptible
> person at the meeting.  Therefore, getting my help for anything
> requiring more than about 5 minutes at a time is often somewhat between
> unlikely and impossible.  It's just the reality of the situation; people
> feel a need to consult me on where things are and to solve problems
> related to it being my and my wife's house.
>
> Fortunately, there are other quite capable people present at the
> meetings.
>
> Also, you should be aware that there is an entire CABAL mailing list
> community, where you can and should discuss your Linux-related issues
> and get help and advice from more than just me.  This has the ancillary
> benefit of helping advance and support the Linux community, because the
> questions and answers are archived and findable via search engines,
> something that is not true when you just exchange private mail with
> people.  Please consider joining it, and posting your CABAL queries
> there.  Listinfo page:  http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire
>
>
>
>
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