[conspire] More Firefox Addon problems - this tie from MS

Mark Weisler mark at weisler-saratoga-ca.us
Fri Feb 12 20:37:34 PST 2010

On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:45 -0800, Ed Biow wrote:
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> > From: Don Marti <dmarti at zgp.org>
> > Subject: Re: [conspire] More Firefox Addon problems - this tie from MS
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> > It's also easy to run remotely, if you set up your
> > friend's machine with sshd.
> I use ssh-server all the time from inside my home network, but am a
> little unclear how I'd do if over the net to their house, given that
> they don't have a fixed IP address.  Their ISP would just assign a
> random IP address, no?  I guess I could get them to send me an email
> and use the first IP address in the header, but wouldn't that be
> subject to change while I'm in the middle of upgrading?  Also,
> wouldn't that just give me their router's IP address?  Wouldn't their
> computer have something in the 192.168.x.x range or 10.x.x.x?  I guess
> I'd need to configure their router to pass SSH through or maybe set up
> a VPN?  I know there are service like GoToMyPC, but they are
> relatively expensive (~$20).
> I really would like to figure out how to control other folks' PCs
> remotely with VNC or whatever.  I have an attorney friend who is
> recovering from a stroke and closed his office (with his secretary)
> and now works from home and he has almost no computer skills.  Getting
> him to run a file manager is a horror, especially since he doesn't
> have a phone headset and has to put down the phone to use the keyboard
> with his one good hand. I hate driving 20 miles every time he can't
> find a document.  He dual boots Windows & Hardy.  Yesterday I couldn't
> coach him through printing out a document in either (I know I set up
> his printer in both environments, but he's in his 70s and his
> description of what was happening on the screen just left me
> flummoxed).  That's when I started looking at GoToMyPC.  I could use a
> good belting with a clue-stick.

An excellent VNC-like technology is NX from Nomachine ...

This involves a server that you put on the remote machine and a client
on your local host used to connect to the remote computer.
A GPL'd version of the server is freenx at http://freenx.berlios.de/  

NX seems to be faster than VNC because NX does some spoofing to send
less data than VNC so NX is very responsive/fast.
I recommend it and use it about eight hours/day.
The server runs on Linux (most flavors) and there are clients for Linux,
Macintosh, and the other one. So you could use this to connect to your
friend while he is running Linux.

You might have to use something like GoToMyPC to connect to his computer
when he's booted into Windows.

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> >>
> >
> > Once you do have your software load down to a
> > sensible level:
> >
> > sudo apt-get install cron-apt
> >
> > (It's a tool that will do the "-d" part for you in
> > the background, so that you have all the packages
> > already downloaded when you start your upgrade.)
> >
> That's a great suggestion, Don, I'll add that to my arsenal.
> Ed
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