Quite frankly, I gave up a decade ago, but I'm glad some others hung in there. Some of what I felt is said exactly in the pull quotes. http://infotrope.net/blog/2009/07/25/standing-out-in-the-crowd-my-oscon-keynote/ -- _Deirdre blog: http://dsmoen.livejournal.com/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!"