[conspire] Ubuntu

Bill Lazar bill at billsaysthis.com
Thu Oct 14 21:29:02 PDT 2004

Okay but they'll be in for a big surprise when a release is set for an
earlier or same month (4.06, for instance) when people start asking how this
is happening. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:conspire-bounces at linuxmafia.com] On Behalf Of Rick Moen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:11 PM
To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
Subject: Re: [conspire] Ubuntu

Clarifying something I wrote earlier:
> Basically, what they're doing, it seems, is maintaining 
> slightly-delayed-for-quality-control mirror of (some subset of?) the 
> Debian-unstable package collections -- probably with some 
> differences...

Here's a recent explanation on the ubuntu-users mailing list:

  "The snapshot of Debian sid used as the starting point for Warty
  development was frozen in late June.  Sarge entered its first stage
  of freeze (affecting "base" and "standard" packages only) over a
  month later on August 7th.  The rest of Debian is not yet frozen,
  and new versions of software continue to enter sarge."

So, they forked off "sid" (the Debian unstable branch) as it was four months
ago.  They'll probably do the same again at intervals, to support their
planned six-month release cycle.

(In fact, they're preparing to start -- immediately following
WartyHedgehog's release -- a new, beta-ish branch called "HoaryHedgehog",
which will be exactly that, and will aim at an April
2005 release.  After that will come GrumpyHedgehog.)

Bill Lazar asked:

> How is this distribution up to v4.10 when this is the first real
> release.  Isn't it?                                                

They've FAQed this.  Quoting
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/version-numbers :

Q:  Why does your first release have a version of 4.10? And what does the
version of an Ubuntu release mean?

A:  Our version numbering scheme is based on the date we release a version
of the distribution. Our first release is in October 2004 so the version is
4.10. Our next release, sometime early 2005, will be roughly 5.04. So the
version number comes from the year and month of the release rather than
being an indicator of a specific piece of software in the release.

Each Ubuntu release has a unique combination of component versions - kernel,
X, Gnome, GCC, libc... so an aggregate version number does not make much
sense. We prefer to give you an idea of when that release was pushed to the

And, before you ask, here's

Q:  What happens with the version number in 2100?

A:  Our grandchildren should be able to figure that one out. At the moment
we're just focused on the next release :-)
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