[dvlug] dvlug.org Changes In June, 2012

Grant Bowman grantbow at dvlug.org
Wed Jun 6 13:28:49 PDT 2012

Rick, I believe you to genuinely be trying to help. I also believe part of
you knows the potential negative impact of some of your words. My opinions
are beside the point here.

Your technically accurate and apparently mean spirited comments are not
welcome in this group. I have already had more than one person from this
group comment to me privately. I find it hard to  explain why I and others
react poorly to your online comments, especially technically inexperienced

I was teaching and hacking WordPress PHP in Nairobi. Setup of wordpress has
been getting easier and easier all the time. As anyone who has maintained
these systems before knows the installation is not the only cost of any
system. Just because one can spend one's time maintaining systems and
updating software does not mean one should. License of the code is
irrelevant. This is IT 101.

We are formulating a plan for our system services. Attendees are welcome to
participate. Apparently kind spirited comments are welcome.

 On Jun 5, 2012 12:18 AM, "Rick Moen" <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Quoting Grant Bowman (grantbow at dvlug.org):
> > > * de-emphasize the role of the email list in favor of a WordPress blog
> > > at dvlug.org
> >
> > How do people feel about dvlug.wordpress.com hosting the blog?
> Because you don't care to run WordPress yourself, and prefer to
> outsource to a company (Automatic, Inc.) that funds it by putting
> Automatic, Inc. advertising and Google ads on your blog, attempting to
> upsell you to the for-money service, and data-mining your usage?
> If on the other hand you want to try running your own WordPress
> installation, I'd be glad to set it up for you.  It's not like that's
> difficult, as it's a bog-standard PHP/MySQL app.  All you need is a
> static IP somewhere.
> It makes me sad when LUGs act like they're incompetent to run their own
> Internet operations, which after all has been _Linux's core competency_
> for twenty years.  If even LUGs cannot be bothered to use Linux for
> their own Internet hosting, why should anyone else respect Linux?
> It's called 'eating your own dog food', Grant.
> But, hey, you've obviously already made up your mind to outsource, and
> all that's left is the justifying.
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