From: David Golden To: Subject: Re: [ILUG] windowing system Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:16:53 +0000 Well, it really depends on how resource constrained you are - there are things like: 1. PicoGUI (http://www.picogui.org/) 2. Microwindows/NanoGUI (http://www.microwindows.org/) 3. Direct-to-framebuffer gtk. 4. The Qtopia environment is a bit bigger (though it is Qt, and Qt is more of a platform (like Java, but fast) than a simple GUI toolkit.) Having played with Qtopia on my Zaurus for some time now, my current thinking is that Qtopia-on-Linux is indeed quite pretty and certainly nicer to program than WinCE. PyQt is a dream compared to the nightmare of eVB, and Qt/C++ is much nicer than eVC++ (but I don't particularly like C++ anyway) 5. However, I'd much rather have X with its network transparency, flexibility, and toolkit-neutrality than any of the above! Note that X isn't necessarily big, and I would consider it worthy of consideration - see TinyX on the Linux framebuffer. TinyX+a modified Gtk is reported to weigh in at 2.9MByte (comparable to Qtopia) by these people: http://www.bluemug.com/research/gtk_embed/ Dave Golden