From tsignus@aol.com Fri Nov 10 16:09:10 CST 2000 Article: 454647 of rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Path: uchinews!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: tsignus@aol.com (TSignus) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Subject: Robert Jordan Speaks on Moridin's Identity Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 07 Nov 2000 07:29:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20001107022930.19368.00000310@ng-ch1.aol.com> Xref: uchinews rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan:454647 An interesting question and answer about the identity of Moridin was asked on the Barnes and Noble RJ Chat. Jeremy from Long Island NY: For any of the mysteries, i.e. Moridin's identity and Asmodean's death, would you tell us where to look for clues we probably missed? Or just mention some clues that we all probably didn't see? RJ: (laughs) Well, Moridin's identity is pretty much an open secret -- and esp if you read WH, I think it's increasingly clear who he is, if there were any doubt. As for the other -- read and find out! Well, since Moridin's identity is an open secret, that there should never have been any doubt for, then I'd say that kills every possible theory for Moridin's identity except for him being Ishamael reborn since every one of those theories is loony and is not clear at all. Of course, the most observant of us all figured out that Moridin was Ishamael years ago... -TS From jlarmour@telusplanet.net Thu Nov 16 15:27:10 CST 2000 Article: 459037 of rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Path: uchinews!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!cyclone-sjo1.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jason" Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan References: <20001115133014.11438.00001549@ng-df1.aol.com> <3A13B5A8.5B2CB44E@narrows.com> Subject: Re: Ishamael being Moridin? (WH spoiler) Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:57:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.59.79.0 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 974390222 142.59.79.0 (Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:57:02 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:57:02 MST Xref: uchinews rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan:459037 "Forsaken" wrote in message news:3A13B5A8.5B2CB44E@narrows.com... > > hope i don't say something stupid due to lack of knowledge on this subject but i > read an intersting passage from WH and thought it might apply to this > discussion.... > Hardcover version, page 646. > > Osan'gar thinks about leaving the forest but fears Moridin will find out, > > "He had been mad with power before they were sealed into the bore, > and since > they had been freed, he seemed to think he was the great lord." > > Wasn't Ishamael free most of the time and not trapped with the others...i read > this that at least Osan'gar knew of Moridin before they were even sealed in the > bore....of cours i could be wrong. But Ishamael is the only one of the Forsaken to ever be accused of 'thinking he was the great lord'. That's a pretty clear clue to who he is. As well, the others all being sealed probably lead to his delusion of grandeur, and when the others got free from the seal and found his new attitude they all stated with the. What the... ego much?