From jlawless at redwoodscientific.com Wed Sep 1 15:00:59 2004
From: jlawless at redwoodscientific.com (John Lawless)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] svlug mailing list archives vs spam
Message-ID: <20040901220059.GA19317@redwoodscientific.com>
While trying to figure out why some of my email addresses get so
much more spam than others, I found that lists.svlug.org has e-mail
addresses for mailing list users unobscured on the web site such as in
this html fragment:
[svlug] Disk Partitioning again
John Lawless
jlawless@redwoodscientific.com
May I suggest some changes? First, it seems to me that
"href=mailto:" tags are unnecessary. It is an obvious invitation to
spammers. If any human wants to e-mail me, they can cut and paste the
address. (I know that "%40" for "@" used to fool spammer's
robots but spammers do get smarter as time goes on.) Secondly, the
plain text part should have some obscuration added. I would suggest,
for example, adding random spaces into the address. Any human capable
of using Linux would immediately remove spaces but the spaces would
likely leave robots hopelessly confused.
This e-mail address does get a lot more spam than my others.
I and, I'm sure, many other svlug mailing list users would greatly
appreciate your help on this.
Thanks,
John
From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Sep 1 15:18:23 2004
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] svlug mailing list archives vs spam
In-Reply-To: <20040901220059.GA19317@redwoodscientific.com>
References: <20040901220059.GA19317@redwoodscientific.com>
Message-ID: <20040901221823.GA18054@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
begin John Lawless quotation of Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 03:00:59PM -0700:
> While trying to figure out why some of my email addresses get so
> much more spam than others, I found that lists.svlug.org has e-mail
> addresses for mailing list users unobscured on the web site such as in
> this html fragment:
It is SVLUG policy never to obscure any email address
to hide from spammers. When you let the abusers of
a medium shape your use of the medium, you lose.
This request has come up before and it has been
denied.
If you don't know how to filter out problem mail,
a post to the mailing list asking about mail filters
for Linux would be on-topic.
--
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
dmarti@zgp.org
From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Sep 7 15:17:55 2004
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] svlug mailing list archives vs spam
In-Reply-To: <20040901221823.GA18054@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
References: <20040901220059.GA19317@redwoodscientific.com>
<20040901221823.GA18054@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20040907221755.GB30789@linuxmafia.com>
Quoting Don Marti (dmarti@zgp.org):
> It is SVLUG policy never to obscure any email address to hide from
> spammers. When you let the abusers of a medium shape your use of the
> medium, you lose.
Don, I have a standard paragraph that I use on the Mailman list-info
pages for my mailing lists:
Per list policy, our (subscriber-accessible) membership roster and
public message archives display unobscured posting addresses. If you're
trying to hide your e-mail address from spammers, avoid this list.
(See, for example,
http://linuxmafia.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conspire .)
If you'd like, I can add that text to any or all of the following:
http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug-announce
http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug
http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team
http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/speakers/
Please let me know where (if at all) you consider that appropriate.
The non-SVLUG page at http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/smaug
already has that notice -- because I've long admined the list. ;->
P.S.: Policy about roster access is actually diverse among SVLUG's
lists. Of the three above, we have:
List Policy
svlug-announce: Roster visible to anyone, even non-subscribers.
svlug: Roster visible to listadmin only.
web-team: Roster visible to subscribers.
speakers: Roster visible to subscribers.
I will assume the differences are deliberate, and not do anything to
them.
Ones I don't administer:
jobs: Roster visible to listadmin only.
lsec: Roster visible to listadmin only.
From David at TechVenue.com Tue Sep 7 15:21:09 2004
From: David at TechVenue.com (David@TechVenue.com)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] TechVenue.com Silicon Valley/Bay Area: Event Modified:
Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG): Installfest/Workshop,
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September 18 2004 | Category: User Groups & SIGS
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Scheduled for: Saturday, September 18 2004, 11:00am - 4:00pm
Event text: Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG):
Installfest/Workshop, San Jose
Category: User Groups & SIGS
Details: The Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG):
Installfest/Workshop
LOCATION: Accent Technology 1880 Hartog Drive San Jose,
CA
DIRECTIONS: http://www.svlug.org/directions/accent.shtml
MAIN URL: http://www.svlug.org/
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General Procedures
The event itself is usually unformatted - no pre-set
schedule of activities. When you arrive, check with the
Installfest personnel (not the bookshop employees - we
do not want to interfere with their work) on where to
set up your system. We try to keep people with new
installations together, and people with troubleshooting
issues together. Then go to work - our gurus will be
there to help. Feel free to ask any question.
There is no fixed schedule of acivities, though
occasionally we will have an expert come give a
mini-seminar on his or her area of expertise.
Due to the finite size of the work area, we ask that you
be prepared to share tables with other installers.
What To Do
Bring your machine, including monitor and anything else
it needs to work.
Bring a power strip. If we have a shortage of outlets,
people who bring power strips get priority at the wall
outlets.
Whether you are doing a new Linux install or just an
upgrade, make a backup of your current system before you
come. If something goes wrong, we want to be sure that
you lose nothing critical.
If you are installing a new version of Linux, bring your
installation CD and documentation. (Some Intel-based
installation CDs may be there for you to use, but don't
depend absolutely on it.)
We try to have a 10baseT local-area network hooked up
among our machines, so bring your NICs!
If you have one, bring an Ethernet hub. Since attendance
is somewhat unpredictable, it doesn't hurt to have
several extras. (Be sure to ask before connecting it -
we want a topology where one hub is just for other hubs
to connect to, and ideally only one-hub-deep connections
from there. Some distant parts of the room may need an
extra hub for that area.)
Some regular participants have found it handy to make a
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Don't count on others to have spare monitors, power
cables, keyboards, mice, non-Intel Linux distributions,
etc... although if you intended to bring them and
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Our hours of operation are 11am to 4pm. Don't arrive at
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which is also internationally known as Silicon Valley.
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implementations of Unix, as well as other open sourceTM
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From David at TechVenue.com Tue Sep 7 15:21:27 2004
From: David at TechVenue.com (David@TechVenue.com)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] TechVenue.com Silicon Valley/Bay Area: Event Modified:
Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG): Installfest/Workshop,
San Jose | Date/Time: Saturday,
September 18 2004 | Category: User Groups & SIGS
Message-ID: <200409072221.RAC31764@lml100.siteprotect.com>
TechVenue.com Event Notification
Saturday, September 18 2004
11:00am - 4:00pm
Modified by TechVenue
Comments: Hello,
I need your help please, as we've tried to verify your event posting for several months. Your organization and event posting needs to be verified as active and meeting on the 3rd Saturday of each month.
Until we hear back from you, we need to update your listing "*** DEFUNCT ***", and finally de-listed if we do not hear back from you soon by your posting a fresh, accurate listing for your organization for 2004 and beyond.
You can do so at: http://TechVenue.com/Post.htm
Thank you for your partnership in keeping your regional calendar as accurate and reliable as possible!
Best Regards,
David
__________________________________
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David@TechVenue.com
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Since 1998, Your Regional Business Technology Events Calendar & Clearinghouse
__________________________________
Calendar Name: USValley
Scheduled for: Saturday, September 18 2004, 11:00am - 4:00pm
Event text: Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG):
Installfest/Workshop, San Jose
Category: User Groups & SIGS
Details: The Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG):
Installfest/Workshop
LOCATION: Accent Technology 1880 Hartog Drive San Jose,
CA
DIRECTIONS: http://www.svlug.org/directions/accent.shtml
MAIN URL: http://www.svlug.org/
EVENT NOTES:
General Procedures
The event itself is usually unformatted - no pre-set
schedule of activities. When you arrive, check with the
Installfest personnel (not the bookshop employees - we
do not want to interfere with their work) on where to
set up your system. We try to keep people with new
installations together, and people with troubleshooting
issues together. Then go to work - our gurus will be
there to help. Feel free to ask any question.
There is no fixed schedule of acivities, though
occasionally we will have an expert come give a
mini-seminar on his or her area of expertise.
Due to the finite size of the work area, we ask that you
be prepared to share tables with other installers.
What To Do
Bring your machine, including monitor and anything else
it needs to work.
Bring a power strip. If we have a shortage of outlets,
people who bring power strips get priority at the wall
outlets.
Whether you are doing a new Linux install or just an
upgrade, make a backup of your current system before you
come. If something goes wrong, we want to be sure that
you lose nothing critical.
If you are installing a new version of Linux, bring your
installation CD and documentation. (Some Intel-based
installation CDs may be there for you to use, but don't
depend absolutely on it.)
We try to have a 10baseT local-area network hooked up
among our machines, so bring your NICs!
If you have one, bring an Ethernet hub. Since attendance
is somewhat unpredictable, it doesn't hurt to have
several extras. (Be sure to ask before connecting it -
we want a topology where one hub is just for other hubs
to connect to, and ideally only one-hub-deep connections
from there. Some distant parts of the room may need an
extra hub for that area.)
Some regular participants have found it handy to make a
box of stuff they regularly bring to the Installfests.
What Not To Do
Don't count on others to have spare monitors, power
cables, keyboards, mice, non-Intel Linux distributions,
etc... although if you intended to bring them and
forgot, ask around before driving back home to get them.
Our hours of operation are 11am to 4pm. Don't arrive at
3:00 and expect to get much accomplished before we have
to shut down for the day.
ORGANIZATION NOTES:
The Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG) is the
oldest and one of the largest Linux user groups in the
world. It's a group of Linux hobbyists, professionals
and enthusiasts in the vicinity of San Jose, California,
which is also internationally known as Silicon Valley.
Our
members share interests in Linux and free or low-cost
implementations of Unix, as well as other open sourceTM
software. The group was originally formed in 1988 as the
PC-Unix Special Interest Group of the Silicon Valley
Computer Society. SVLUG celebrated its 10th anniversary
at the March 4, 1998 meeting, where Linus Torvalds
addressed an audience of 500 people.
This event repeats on the third Saturday every month forever.
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From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Sep 7 18:18:11 2004
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] svlug mailing list archives vs spam
In-Reply-To: <20040907221755.GB30789@linuxmafia.com>
References: <20040901220059.GA19317@redwoodscientific.com>
<20040901221823.GA18054@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
<20040907221755.GB30789@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <20040908011811.GC8173@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
Rick,
> Don, I have a standard paragraph that I use on the Mailman list-info
> pages for my mailing lists:
>
> Per list policy, our (subscriber-accessible) membership roster and
> public message archives display unobscured posting addresses. If you're
> trying to hide your e-mail address from spammers, avoid this list.
>
> (See, for example,
> http://linuxmafia.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conspire .)
>
> If you'd like, I can add that text to any or all of the following:
>
> http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug-announce
> http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug
> http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team
> http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/speakers/
>
> Please let me know where (if at all) you consider that appropriate.
Yes, please. Except please say "do not post to this
list from that address" instead of "avoid this list".
> P.S.: Policy about roster access is actually diverse among SVLUG's
> lists. Of the three above, we have:
>
> List Policy
> svlug-announce: Roster visible to anyone, even non-subscribers.
Should definitely be listadmin only. Others are
correct. Thank you for checking.
--
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
dmarti@zgp.org
From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Sep 7 19:16:15 2004
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] svlug mailing list archives vs spam
In-Reply-To: <20040908011811.GC8173@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
References: <20040901220059.GA19317@redwoodscientific.com>
<20040901221823.GA18054@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
<20040907221755.GB30789@linuxmafia.com>
<20040908011811.GC8173@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20040908021615.GF30789@linuxmafia.com>
Quoting Don Marti (dmarti@zgp.org):
> Yes, please. Except please say "do not post to this list from that
> address" instead of "avoid this list".
Done. All four lists' info. pages are now edited to reflect this policy
and to match their respective settings.
[svlug-announce roster access:]
> Should definitely be listadmin only.
Fixed.
From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Sep 8 15:48:03 2004
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] TechVenue.com Silicon Valley/Bay Area: Event Modified:
Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG): Installfest/Workshop,
San Jose | Date/Time: Saturday,
September 18 2004 | Category: User Groups & SIGS
In-Reply-To: <200409072221.RAC31764@lml100.siteprotect.com>
References: <200409072221.RAC31764@lml100.siteprotect.com>
Message-ID: <20040908224803.GS30789@linuxmafia.com>
Quoting David@TechVenue.com (David@TechVenue.com):
> TechVenue.com Event Notification
> Saturday, September 18 2004
> 11:00am - 4:00pm
>
> Modified by TechVenue
> Comments: Hello,
>
> I need your help please, as we've tried to verify your event posting
> for several months. Your organization and event posting needs to be
> verified as active and meeting on the 3rd Saturday of each month.
>
> Until we hear back from you, we need to update your listing "***
> DEFUNCT ***", and finally de-listed if we do not hear back from you
> soon by your posting a fresh, accurate listing for your organization
> for 2004 and beyond.
Don and Marc --
Whether to correspond with these guys to "confirm events" is logically
your call, as a policy question. Default is "no".
They claim to have run this Web calendar, originally serving just
Chicago, for six years as a mostly-free-as-in-beer service with business
extensions including online advertising, and that seems correct.
Silicon Valley portion of their calendar is at
http://techvenue.com/cgi-bin/TechVenue.pl?CalendarName=USValley .
You'll notice that listings overwhelmingly consist of clue-starved
businessman-leaning social events. I don't expect that to change.
There is some annoying use of Javascript: It's evident that they're
fixated on MSIE.
We could do any of the following:
1. Ignore them, in expectation that they'll eventually flush their
listings of the monthly SVLUG general meetings and installfests.
(They currently list both.)
2. Ask them specifically to delete those meetings.
3. Start playing their "verification" game. Only probable immediate
drawback is (likely) periodic nagmails.
Your call.
From dmarti at ssc.com Wed Sep 8 16:30:26 2004
From: dmarti at ssc.com (Don Marti)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] TechVenue.com Silicon Valley/Bay Area: Event Modified:
Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG): Installfest/Workshop,
San Jose | Date/Time: Saturday,
September 18 2004 | Category: User Groups & SIGS
In-Reply-To: <20040908224803.GS30789@linuxmafia.com>
References: <200409072221.RAC31764@lml100.siteprotect.com>
<20040908224803.GS30789@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <20040908233026.GB13203@lycopersicon.zgp.org>
Rick,
> Whether to correspond with these guys to "confirm events" is logically
> your call, as a policy question. Default is "no".
It looks like a legit service. I went ahead
and replied by email with a copy of the same
event listing. If they make us jump through too
many hoops to do it it's not worth it, but if we
can keep the listing up to date by sending it to
events@techvenue.com we might as well.
--
Don Marti Plain text email only, please.
Editor in Chief dmarti@linuxjournal.com
Linux Journal Phone: 510-814-0932
http://linuxjournal.com/ Linux Journal editorial office: 206-782-9011
From sirjimdinkey at earthlink.net Wed Sep 15 20:20:15 2004
From: sirjimdinkey at earthlink.net (Jim Dinkey)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website
Message-ID: <4149066F.5080301@earthlink.net>
Nowhere on the site can I find easily the ADDRESS of the installfest
activity at Accent Technologies. Is this by design?
Jim Dinkey
jimdinkey at jimdinkey.com
From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Sep 16 10:58:23 2004
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:57 2005
Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website
In-Reply-To: <4149066F.5080301@earthlink.net>
References: <4149066F.5080301@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20040916175823.GH21483@linuxmafia.com>
Quoting Jim Dinkey (sirjimdinkey at earthlink.net):
> Nowhere on the site can I find easily the ADDRESS of the installfest
> activity at Accent Technologies. Is this by design?
On a good day, we have been known to have design, but this sounds like
accident. ;->
Some months ago, I did notice that you had to dig a _little_ bit
(definitely not a lot) to get that datum. On the Web site's front
page, you see "Accent Techologies, San Jose" and a link attached to the
word "Installfests". Following that takes you to the central
installfest page, which, right under the upcoming dates, says
The Regular Place
Our installfest host site is normally Accent Technologies in San
Jose. We have detailed directions to help you get there. It's very
close to the San Jose Fry's Electronics.
The phrase "detailed directions" is a link to a page with the street
address and painfully detailed information on how to get there.
I'm actually undecided about whether all this is a problem or not. I
could re-edit the central installfest page to say
The Regular Place
Our installfest host site is normally Accent Technologies, 1880
Hartog Drive, San Jose. We have detailed directions to help you
get there. It's very close to the San Jose Fry's Electronics.
But I'm not sure that helps people, because, let's face it, Hartog Drive
isn't exactly El Camino Real. The only use of that datum would be
feeding it into a map -- but that's already provided on the directions
page. So, looks to me like a pretty good design, whether accidental
or not.
Tell you what: We try not to bog down the Web site front page with gobs
of information, but I see a way to fix the situation there: I've just
added a "(directions)" hyperlink right next to the installfest news
squib on the front page. Better?