From dlr2 at starpower.net Wed Jan 2 12:49:02 2002 From: dlr2 at starpower.net (Don) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:33 2005 Subject: [web-team] Your User Group Status at www.eserverusergroup.org Message-ID: <3C26C7F8.2995A54D@starpower.net> Greetings, In a effort to keep the user group directory as accurate as possible, I am sending out my periodic request for accuracy check. This email will come out about every 6-8 months and request that you verify that the link and information for your user group as shown at www.eserverusergroup.org is correct. When verifying your information, keep in mind that the map is cursor sensitive...:) If the information is correct, you need do nothing. If it is NOT correct, please email me at dr2@cssas400.com immediately with whatever correction information as appropriate. If you know of any missing UG's that should be listed, please also let me know about them at the above email. SPECIAL NOTICE FOR IBM AS/400 or iSeries UG's: There is a closed listserver for AS/400 UG Board members and liasons. It is free and open to any bonifide BOD member or IBM liason. If you're not on the interlug listserver and wish to be, please email me at dr2@cssas400.com with your name, LUG, board position and obviousely email. My apologies if you get this more than once. Due to how UG's are currently listed, you could get a verifying email for being a board member as well as the primary contact point for a UG. It is my goal to keep this site as current and complete as possible and I can't do that without your help. Thanks...:) Don Rima From stevegt at TerraLuna.Org Wed Jan 2 13:49:03 2002 From: stevegt at TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] January Meeting Announcement In-Reply-To: <200112220605.fBM65Iw07702@betelgeuse.starshine.org>; from star@betelgeuse.starshine.org on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:05:18PM -0800 References: <200112220526.fBM5QeL07489@betelgeuse.starshine.org> <200112220605.fBM65Iw07702@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20020102134824.A6791@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> If anyone has Heather's cell phone #, can you give her a call and let her know that meetings.shtml still shows the bio for last month's speaker for tonight's meeting? Steve On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:05:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > All and sundry: > 1. apologies if you're getting dupes. > 2. pages updated > a. the Events widget is cleaned up. Fests shouldn't spoil, > SVLUG and BALUG are correct. > b. The Meetings page is partially updated. The top, which is what > half the crowd look at, is corrected. The blurb needs dropping in. > > 3. SOMEONE please confirm which building it's in! I am assuming 9, but > stated "probably back to 9" on the pages, so if we are wrong and > have to jump back, folks won't have the excuse that we said nada > about the possibility. > > As it's about sysadmin stuff, I'll cross post to BayLISA next week. > > merry equinox... > > . | . Heather Stern > --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator > > > > At 12:19 PM -0800 12/20/01, Steve Traugott wrote: > > > > > > >- Officers: assuming the location is correct, can someone go ahead and > > > > post this announcement on the list? > > > > > > I'll do that. Normally I'd wait until the week before (say, 29 > > > December) and then post a reminder on the week of (say, 1 January). > > > But I'll do it as you prefer. Would you like me to post something > > > immediately? > > > > > > The rest I leave for the other officers. > > > > > > >Can someone verify that I have > > > > the correct location for January? > > > >- Heather: can you go ahead and post this on the web site? I've > > > > already provided a suggested title at the top... > > > > I'm presently preparing to be out of town for a few days (visiting my sister > > and folks for X-mas). Connectivity is sucky at best there* and I have to > > finish LG stuff early so my editor can goof for New Year's, so I do not > > expect to be hitting mail or the net in general until I return late Wed. > > or early Thurs. > > > > * my sister has a modem linkup, but there aren't enough POPs in L.A. so it's > > often busy and slow even after she gets in. Jim keeps saying we ought to > > turn the dial-ourselves setup back on, but we haven't, and it's just as > > well since it'd be long distance. > > > > I can slip the title into the front page widget. I should check that the > > secondary page is time/title accurate before I go but I'm not worried about > > it being "filled in" before next Wed, since that's a week out. > > > > Announce this far ahead is good, but please note, you'll want to do a smaller > > announce the day before to remind people to set their PDAs, avoid getting > > sucked into dinner arrangements, etc. (BayLISA has the same problem) > > > > > >- Cisco liaison or anyone: can someone verify that VGA projectors are > > > > standard issue for SVLUG meetings? (I.e. I don't need to request them > > > > each time.) What about overhead projectors? Wireless (802.11b) access > > > > for the speaker for demos etc? > > > > (disclaimer: I am not the Cisco Liaison, I don't play one on TV or VOIP, and > > I don't work for Cisco, either.) > > Last time I was paying attention, VGA was normal, SVLUG's never used > > overheads so I wouldn't know about that, and net access is not typical > > (but I think it was arranged once). > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > --Tom, writing from his childhood bedroom in his parents' place in > > > suburban New York. > > > > We've had some names sign off the web-team list in the last few months and > > few if any joins; the crew is getting spread kind of thin. > > > > . | . Heather Stern > > --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator > > > > _______________________________________________ > > web-team mailing list > > web-team@lists.svlug.org > > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team > > > -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Jan 2 16:20:05 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] January Meeting Announcement In-Reply-To: <20020102134824.A6791@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> from Steve Traugott at "Jan 2, 2002 01:48:24 pm" Message-ID: <200201030019.g030JjK22694@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > If anyone has Heather's cell phone #, can you give her a call and let > her know that meetings.shtml still shows the bio for last month's > speaker for tonight's meeting? > > Steve it's been fixed > On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:05:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > > All and sundry: > > 1. apologies if you're getting dupes. > > 2. pages updated > > a. the Events widget is cleaned up. Fests shouldn't spoil, > > SVLUG and BALUG are correct. > > b. The Meetings page is partially updated. The top, which is what > > half the crowd look at, is corrected. The blurb needs dropping in. > > > > 3. SOMEONE please confirm which building it's in! I am assuming 9, but > > stated "probably back to 9" on the pages, so if we are wrong and > > have to jump back, folks won't have the excuse that we said nada > > about the possibility. > > > > As it's about sysadmin stuff, I'll cross post to BayLISA next week. > > > > merry equinox... > > > > . | . Heather Stern > > --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator > > > > > > At 12:19 PM -0800 12/20/01, Steve Traugott wrote: > > > > > > > > >- Officers: assuming the location is correct, can someone go ahead and > > > > > post this announcement on the list? > > > > > > > > I'll do that. Normally I'd wait until the week before (say, 29 > > > > December) and then post a reminder on the week of (say, 1 January). > > > > But I'll do it as you prefer. Would you like me to post something > > > > immediately? > > > > > > > > The rest I leave for the other officers. > > > > > > > > >Can someone verify that I have > > > > > the correct location for January? > > > > >- Heather: can you go ahead and post this on the web site? I've > > > > > already provided a suggested title at the top... > > > > > > I'm presently preparing to be out of town for a few days (visiting my sister > > > and folks for X-mas). Connectivity is sucky at best there* and I have to > > > finish LG stuff early so my editor can goof for New Year's, so I do not > > > expect to be hitting mail or the net in general until I return late Wed. > > > or early Thurs. > > > > > > * my sister has a modem linkup, but there aren't enough POPs in L.A. so it's > > > often busy and slow even after she gets in. Jim keeps saying we ought to > > > turn the dial-ourselves setup back on, but we haven't, and it's just as > > > well since it'd be long distance. > > > > > > I can slip the title into the front page widget. I should check that the > > > secondary page is time/title accurate before I go but I'm not worried about > > > it being "filled in" before next Wed, since that's a week out. > > > > > > Announce this far ahead is good, but please note, you'll want to do a smaller > > > announce the day before to remind people to set their PDAs, avoid getting > > > sucked into dinner arrangements, etc. (BayLISA has the same problem) > > > > > > > >- Cisco liaison or anyone: can someone verify that VGA projectors are > > > > > standard issue for SVLUG meetings? (I.e. I don't need to request them > > > > > each time.) What about overhead projectors? Wireless (802.11b) access > > > > > for the speaker for demos etc? > > > > > > (disclaimer: I am not the Cisco Liaison, I don't play one on TV or VOIP, and > > > I don't work for Cisco, either.) > > > Last time I was paying attention, VGA was normal, SVLUG's never used > > > overheads so I wouldn't know about that, and net access is not typical > > > (but I think it was arranged once). > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > --Tom, writing from his childhood bedroom in his parents' place in > > > > suburban New York. > > > > > > We've had some names sign off the web-team list in the last few months and > > > few if any joins; the crew is getting spread kind of thin. > > > > > > . | . Heather Stern > > > --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > > > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > web-team mailing list > > > web-team@lists.svlug.org > > > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team > > > > > > > -- > . . ` * > Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator > Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley > stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group > http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org > From charles at Oddcast.com Mon Jan 7 06:48:01 2002 From: charles at Oddcast.com (Charles Bennington) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] found bad link on SVLUG website Message-ID: <3C39B4B8.C1FDCE7B@oddcast.com> http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2001-February/006735.html It's a shame too. cb From adam.brett.UM6u7H_4BzPMw5tWWCUD5bwwM.e3 at mail.internetseer.com Thu Jan 10 15:06:01 2002 From: adam.brett.UM6u7H_4BzPMw5tWWCUD5bwwM.e3 at mail.internetseer.com (Adam Brett) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Broken link on your website Message-ID: <6090945.1010703798033.JavaMail.promon@pm68> I noticed that your page: http://www.svlug.org/events/crash98.shtml contained a link to: http://hugin.imat.com/launch98/. The page at http://hugin.imat.com/launch98/ cannot currently be accessed because of the following error: Host Not Found.  We last examined your page on 01-10-2002. 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URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20020110/535e4086/attachment.html From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Jan 11 21:19:02 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] cola news not up to date Message-ID: <20020112051849.GN28395@zork.net> The news items from comp.os.linux.announce on the SVLUG web site aren't up to date because the site providing the news feed isn't up to date either. -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Jan 11 23:49:01 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] cola news not up to date In-Reply-To: <20020112051849.GN28395@zork.net> from Seth David Schoen at "Jan 11, 2002 09:18:49 pm" Message-ID: <200201120748.g0C7mjs06419@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > The news items from comp.os.linux.announce on the SVLUG web site > aren't up to date because the site providing the news feed isn't up to > date either. Hmmm. Not sure what I can do about that one. Thanks for letting me know, though... . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From marc_news at vasoftware.com Sun Jan 13 13:09:02 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] found bad link on SVLUG website In-Reply-To: <3C39B4B8.C1FDCE7B@oddcast.com>; from charles@Oddcast.com on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:46:17AM -0500 References: <3C39B4B8.C1FDCE7B@oddcast.com> Message-ID: <20020113130806.B12761@merlins.org> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:46:17AM -0500, Charles Bennington wrote: > http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2001-February/006735.html > > It's a shame too. Look for the message in http://www.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2001-February/ (the archives were rebuilt, so all the messages numbers have changed) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From stevegt at TerraLuna.Org Tue Jan 15 12:02:03 2002 From: stevegt at TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: Fwd: Re: Confirming SVLUG speaker for February 2002 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020115000144.019031c0@mail1.cisco.com>; from tfowler@cisco.com on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:15:32AM -0800 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020115000144.019031c0@mail1.cisco.com> Message-ID: <20020115120051.A2669@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> Thanks for writing Tracy -- was thinking I should ping you around now. I'm Cc'ing this to web-team@svlug.org -- Heather, event description attached below. Cc'ing to officers for the rest: Location information -- according to the event description Tom put together, it's bldg 9. As far as the A/V goes, I'd not count on anything other than a standard setup (one VGA input sending simultaneously to two projectors, one wireless mic) -- and in January we didn't even get a mic. Since you have special requirements and are internal to Cisco, I'd recommend you make the arrangements directly -- if you go through SVLUG you'll risk losing some detail. Ian hasn't been on the hook as SVLUG's Cisco rep for a while now -- according to the SVLUG web site it's Sriranga "Ranga" Veeraraghavan, but I don't have an address for him. Does anyone have that? Steve On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:15:32AM -0800, Tracy Fowler wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Just checking if there are any remaining action items before the MPEG4IP presentation at this February's SVLUG meeting? Please let me know. It looks like the SVLUG website still features the January meeting. Is the event in Cisco building 9 or J? I was going to send an email out to the Cisco Linux user's group and we are going to point to the SVLUG website from our MPEG4IP website. > > We were planning on doing a demo before the presentation, which will feature live and encoded content streaming from two machines. We'd like to be able to toggle between the two monitors to show what commands are being used, etc.. Do we need to provide the audio/visual equipment or are you or Ian Kluft already arranging that? Please give me a call to discuss if you like. We're looking forward to the opportunity. > > Thanks! > > Tracy > > >Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:02:37 -0800 > >From: Steve Traugott > >To: Tom Geller > >Cc: Steve Traugott , Tracy Fowler , > > officers@svlug.org, Joyce Cao > >Subject: Re: Confirming SVLUG speaker for February 2002 > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i > > > >Hi Tracy! My cell phone is 650-868-6358. > > > >Tom, you said Mozilla -- you mean MPEG4IP? Or am I missing a > >connection between the two? If not, have you had any recent > >conversations with anyone with Mozilla anyway? I was thinking about > >pinging them. > > > >Steve > > > >On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 04:33:44PM -0800, Tom Geller wrote: > >> Tracy (with others cc:d): > >> > >> As of 5 December, I'll be stepping down from the position of Speaker > >> Coordinator for Silicon Valley Linux Users Group > >> . Steve Traugott (cc:d) is taking over that > >> job. As the Mozilla folks will be presenting in February, I wanted to > >> take this opportunity to introduce you two and give you both the > >> details you need to confirm the February event. > >> > >> Our previously agreed-to description follows. If you have any > >> questions or comments, please contact Steve. (Feel free to contact me > >> as well if you like, but the ball's in his hands. :) ) > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> --Tom Geller > >> 415-552-2557 > >> > >> > >> ---begin February event description--- > >> > >> Subject: SVLUG meeting Wed, 6 February, 7 pm.: MPEG4IP > >> > >> We're pleased to announce the next meeting of SVLUG, this coming Wednesday. > >> > >> WHEN: > >> Wednesday, 6 February, 7pm-9pm or so. > >> > >> WHO: > >> MPEG4IP (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg4ip/) > >> David Mackie, Technical Leader, Cisco Systems > >> Bill May, Technical Leader, Cisco Systems > >> > >> ABOUT: > >> The objective of MPEG4IP is to remove barriers to streaming > >> that exist because of companies who "embrace and extend" > >> common standards -- and in doing so, break them. By > >> comparison, MPEG4IP is being developed in consideration of > >> the Internet Streaming Media Alliance specification for > >> interoperable streaming technologies. > >> > >> MPEG4IP is an SDK available on SourceForge that includes an > >> MPEG4-based encoder, decoder and server from which > >> developers can create their own streaming solutions. > >> Originally developed for Linux, MPEG4IP has been ported to > >> FreeBSD, BSD/OS and Mac OS X by supporters. > >> > >> MPEG4IP is not a Cisco product; However, Cisco developers > >> started the project over a year ago by aggregating and > >> enhancing existing open-source code, and creating new > >> libraries. > >> > >> MORE ABOUT THE SPEAKERS: > >> Both speakers are Technical Leaders at Cisco Systems' > >> Technology Center. The Technology Center focuses on > >> development of new technologies and markets. Both > >> have the MPEG4IP project as their primary job focus. > >> > >> Bill May has over 15 years of industry experience and has > >> held several positions during his eight years at Cisco. He > >> has been involved in IOS as a developer in WAN and > >> Infrastructure, was a Manager, and has worked on the IP/TV > >> product. Prior to that he was in the telecommunications > >> industry at companies such as T-Com, Cohesive Networks and > >> Timeplex. > >> > >> David Mackie has been working on standards-based streaming > >> media for the past five years, and has 15 years industry > >> experience. He has lead a variety of R&D projects centered > >> around Internet technologies at such companies as The > >> Wollongong Group, Bridge Communications, Network Computing > >> Devices, FTP Software, Open Market, Books That Work, Precept > >> Software, and now Cisco Systems. > >> > >> > >> WHERE: > >> Cisco Building 9. > >> The land of NUMBERS. The VINEYARDS conference center. > >> The side we are on is the Silver Oak/Jordan conference rooms, > >> where a large Cisco fountain is usually not turned on. > >> Directions on how to get there are listed at: > >> http://www.svlug.org/directions/cisco-9.shtml > >> We've tried our very best for these directions to be accurate. > >> If you have any improvements to make, please let our Web Team > >> know! web-team@svlug.org > >> > >> NOTES: > >> It's best if you arrive close to on time, as otherwise > >> there may not be someone posted at the door to let you in. > >> After the speakers end their presentation there is usually > >> a Q&A session, time for job seekers and employers to meet, > >> and often a few door prizes. > >> When the meeting is over people are encouraged to chat a bit, > >> but also to exit the building so Cisco can lock up. Don't > >> worry, a lot of us go to dinner afterward so there's plenty > >> of time to chat outdoors or offsite. > >> > >> We look forward to seeing you there! > >> > >> ---end--- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Tom Geller * San Francisco * tgeller.com > >> Outgoing Speaker Coordinator (term ends 5 December 2001), > >> Silicon Valley Linux Users Group (svlug.org) > >> Current: tgeller.com, spamcon.org, bandwidthpr.com > >> SpamCon Foundation Member, #1: Verify at http://www.spamcon.org > >> > > > >-- > > . . ` * > >Steve Traugott ` . * + > >Infrastructure Architect + ` > >stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * > >http://www.stevegt.com/ > > > > > Tracy Fowler > Technology Center > Cisco Systems > 170 West Tasman Drive > San Jose, CA 95134 > -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org WHEN: Wednesday, 6 February, 7pm-9pm or so. WHO: MPEG4IP (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg4ip/) David Mackie, Technical Leader, Cisco Systems Bill May, Technical Leader, Cisco Systems ABOUT: The objective of MPEG4IP is to remove barriers to streaming that exist because of companies who "embrace and extend" common standards -- and in doing so, break them. By comparison, MPEG4IP is being developed in consideration of the Internet Streaming Media Alliance specification for interoperable streaming technologies. MPEG4IP is an SDK available on SourceForge that includes an MPEG4-based encoder, decoder and server from which developers can create their own streaming solutions. Originally developed for Linux, MPEG4IP has been ported to FreeBSD, BSD/OS and Mac OS X by supporters. MPEG4IP is not a Cisco product; However, Cisco developers started the project over a year ago by aggregating and enhancing existing open-source code, and creating new libraries. MORE ABOUT THE SPEAKERS: Both speakers are Technical Leaders at Cisco Systems' Technology Center. The Technology Center focuses on development of new technologies and markets. Both have the MPEG4IP project as their primary job focus. Bill May has over 15 years of industry experience and has held several positions during his eight years at Cisco. He has been involved in IOS as a developer in WAN and Infrastructure, was a Manager, and has worked on the IP/TV product. Prior to that he was in the telecommunications industry at companies such as T-Com, Cohesive Networks and Timeplex. David Mackie has been working on standards-based streaming media for the past five years, and has 15 years industry experience. He has lead a variety of R&D projects centered around Internet technologies at such companies as The Wollongong Group, Bridge Communications, Network Computing Devices, FTP Software, Open Market, Books That Work, Precept Software, and now Cisco Systems. WHERE: Cisco Building 9. The land of NUMBERS. The VINEYARDS conference center. The side we are on is the Silver Oak/Jordan conference rooms, where a large Cisco fountain is usually not turned on. Directions on how to get there are listed at: http://www.svlug.org/directions/cisco-9.shtml We've tried our very best for these directions to be accurate. If you have any improvements to make, please let our Web Team know! web-team@svlug.org NOTES: It's best if you arrive close to on time, as otherwise there may not be someone posted at the door to let you in. After the speakers end their presentation there is usually a Q&A session, time for job seekers and employers to meet, and often a few door prizes. When the meeting is over people are encouraged to chat a bit, but also to exit the building so Cisco can lock up. Don't worry, a lot of us go to dinner afterward so there's plenty of time to chat outdoors or offsite. 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Steve ----- Forwarded message from Tracy Fowler ----- X-Sender: tfowler@mail1.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:18:30 -0800 To: stevegt@TerraLuna.Org From: Tracy Fowler Subject: Fwd: svlug-announce digest, Vol 1 #50 - 1 msg Hi Steve, Sorry to bug you! I know you are busy. Just keeping you up to date on the SVLUG meeting in Feb. 1. Can't find the mysterious Sriranga "Ranga" Veeraraghavan in our directory tool. Yikes that can't be good these days! I have a call into Ian Kluft. 2. I was going to send a notice to the Cisco Linux Users Group, shall I include svlug-announce@svlug.org? 3. Plz ping when SVLUG website shows the Feb meeting. We're going to link our SourceForge site to it when it does. Cheers- Tracy Tracy Fowler Technology Center Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org From marc_news at vasoftware.com Mon Jan 21 17:38:03 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <20020118143956.B13274@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> References: <20020118143956.B13274@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> Message-ID: <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org> On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 02:39:56PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > - Can some of the officers and/or ex-officers help Heather? This is > getting silly. Heather, you really need to be answering your Email. The web site is chronically out of date and/or changed at the last minute, and we haven't heard back on the couple of suggestions to give you help. If I have to edit the web site (badly) again, we will need to add new web-team members without your feedback, it's really ridiculous that we have our speakers well in advance, and the web site gets updated the day before the meeting... Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From stevegt at TerraLuna.Org Mon Jan 21 18:14:01 2002 From: stevegt at TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Call for Speakers In-Reply-To: <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org>; from marc_news@vasoftware.com on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:37:11PM -0800 References: <20020118143956.B13274@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20020121181348.C31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:37:11PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > it's really ridiculous that we have our speakers well in advance, On that note, can we post the (attached) Call for Speakers somewhere prominently on the web site ASAP? We still don't have any good candidates for March... Steve -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org CALL FOR SPEAKERS The Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG) has openings for speakers for our monthly meetings during several upcoming months, beginning in March 2002. If you would like to present a topic of general interest to the Linux community, please feel free to contact SVLUG speaker coordinator Steve Traugott at speakers@svlug.org. About the group: ================ The Silicon Valley Linux User Group (SVLUG) is the oldest and one of the largest Linux user groups in the world. Past speakers include Marc Andreessen, Paul Vixie, Tim O'Reilly, and Larry Wall. SVLUG celebrated its 10th anniversary at the March 4, 1998 meeting, where Linus Torvalds addressed an audience of 500 people. 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I have no idea if Tracy was even there that night, don't even know what he looks like. Thought I was looking for Ranga. Steve On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:46:34PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > Cisco provided no microphones of any sort for last night's meeting, > and the A/V guy detailed to the room by Cisco didn't have any access > to the A/V storage room. > > The speaker (me) basically had to yell continually for over two hours. > That would have been pretty lame if it had been an outside speaker -- > as it was I did have trouble keeping hydrated and audible toward the > end. > > What did we do wrong? > > Otherwise things went well -- I would guess there were about 100-150 > people attending, which is about what I expected with holidays and > rain. Ben Spade was there and filled in with intros etc. That helped > a lot. Heather brought door prizes. The presentation itself seemed > to be well received judging by the amount of Q&A -- we wrapped at > about 9:40 and cleared the room by 9:55. > > The IHOP closed at 10 this time -- we had to reroute everyone to > Denny's. > > Steve > -- > . . ` * > Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator > Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley > stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group > http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org From marc at merlins.org Mon Jan 21 21:48:01 2002 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG web team In-Reply-To: <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> References: <20020121203815.E31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> Message-ID: <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:57:29PM -0800, Joyce Cao Traugott wrote: > I heard that SVLUG web team needs more people to help out. I am currently Yeah, we do. Sorry you haven't had an answer yet, I was hoping that Heather would answer you. > a web developer at Integrated Device Technology. I have been maintaining > a few websites at home too. I thought the web team had found more people > already, so I didn't offer my help earlier. If you guys still need more > people, I'd be glad to help. We had two members. One disappeared apparently, and the other one (Heather) maintains many sites, and is apparently very busy with work. > Here are some of the websites that I maintain - just to give you some idea > of my designing style. I'm not overly ccncerned with style, and help is good help :-) It's more an issue as to whether you are confortable with: - access through ssh only - hand HTML editing - vi (or some other non GUI text editor) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From stevegt at TerraLuna.Org Mon Jan 21 22:22:01 2002 From: stevegt at TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG web team In-Reply-To: <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org>; from marc@merlins.org on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:46:58PM -0800 References: <20020121203815.E31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20020121222137.B17905@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:46:58PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I'm not overly ccncerned with style, and help is good help :-) > It's more an issue as to whether you are confortable with: > - access through ssh only > - hand HTML editing > - vi (or some other non GUI text editor) Joyce is off at the Gym, so I'll answer this one for her -- Joyce is comfortable operating in our environment (11 machines at home, 7 at our office, not counting the ERPS Beowulf cluster). As the "family sysadmin" I've made sure that ssh is the only way to get around, and I (ahem) never showed Joyce any other editor than VIM when she was first getting into Linux, years ago. She uses Netscape Messenger for IMAP mail out of inertia (mine) more than anything else, uses Pine when she's on the road, and distrusts Composer or any other GUI HTML editors -- they don't support the server-side includes, stylesheets, and javascript she uses on some sites. She hates FrontPage, and has been gritting her teeth through an ASP project her current boss has had her on for the last few months, wants to get back to Perl. Whups -- she just came home; better send this quick. ;-) Steve -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org From joyce at TerraLuna.Org Mon Jan 21 22:25:01 2002 From: joyce at TerraLuna.Org (Joyce Cao Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG web team References: <20020121203815.E31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org> Message-ID: <3C4D04EE.5F6B7CEE@TerraLuna.Org> No problem with the three things you pointed out. Waiting for the file access information. Joyce From marc_news at vasoftware.com Tue Jan 22 15:36:01 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG web team In-Reply-To: <20020121222137.B17905@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> References: <20020121203815.E31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org> <20020121222137.B17905@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> Message-ID: <20020122233537.GD19823@merlins.org> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:21:37PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > Joyce is off at the Gym, so I'll answer this one for her -- Joyce is > comfortable operating in our environment (11 machines at home, 7 at > our office, not counting the ERPS Beowulf cluster). As the "family > sysadmin" I've made sure that ssh is the only way to get around, and I > (ahem) never showed Joyce any other editor than VIM when she was first > getting into Linux, years ago. She uses Netscape Messenger for IMAP > mail out of inertia (mine) more than anything else, uses Pine when > she's on the road, and distrusts Composer or any other GUI HTML > editors -- they don't support the server-side includes, stylesheets, > and javascript she uses on some sites. > > She hates FrontPage, and has been gritting her teeth through an ASP > project her current boss has had her on for the last few months, > wants to get back to Perl. One couldn't ask for any better qualifications, and besides, it will help speaker coordinator -> web team communication :-) You're hired :-) Joyce, welcome to the team and thank you for volunteering your time. You can find some info from Heather here: http://lists.svlug.org/lists/private/web-team/2001-September/000604.html http://lists.svlug.org/lists/private/web-team/2000-November/000261.html (you need to use your list password which you should have received by mail) For more details, you can ask on web-team@svlug.org, and/or read through more posts from heather. You can download the full raw mail archive from http://lists.svlug.org/lists/private/web-team/ and extract the posts from Heather. I'm getting info from Steve to mail you the passwords to the svlug machine. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From joyce at TerraLuna.Org Tue Jan 22 20:35:01 2002 From: joyce at TerraLuna.Org (Joyce Cao Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG web team References: <20020121203815.E31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org> <20020121222137.B17905@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <20020122233537.GD19823@merlins.org> Message-ID: <3C4E3D07.960D9160@TerraLuna.Org> So my login ID is joyce and the password is the one that shows in the separate email which I did see. 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Marc, we've cleaned up most of the other dead wood on the officers page, showing some new job openings. We can announce them next meeting. That page still needs more work, but it's better now. Ian; Joyce and I have some rework/automation ideas we'll likely implement to streamline the way speakers are added and managed -- we might bounce them off of you next time we meet. Also, let us know if you had any unfinished work on the site you'd like to see finished. I'm out of town (checking mail and messages) next week, Joyce is here. Steve On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 12:33:32PM -0800, Ian Kluft wrote: > I got your voice mail asking about the SVLUG room reservation contact at > Cisco. His name is Tracy Vierra (tracyv@cisco.com). > > Heh... I guess this is "Tracy, meet Tracy". :-) I've CC'ed him on this > message since you said you wanted to double-check some things about the > room. Since you also asked about sending announcements to SVLUG, I'll > also CC this to SVLUG's 2002 speaker coordinator, Steve Traugott - he can > include any speaker info you have with his meeting announcements. > -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org From marc_news at vasoftware.com Thu Jan 24 01:30:01 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG web team In-Reply-To: <3C4E3D07.960D9160@TerraLuna.Org> References: <20020121203815.E31963@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <3C4CF139.FCCE642@TerraLuna.Org> <20020122054658.GO15497@merlins.org> <20020121222137.B17905@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <20020122233537.GD19823@merlins.org> <3C4E3D07.960D9160@TerraLuna.Org> Message-ID: <20020124092859.GH15497@merlins.org> On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:33:11PM -0800, Joyce Cao Traugott wrote: > So my login ID is joyce and the password is the one that shows in the separate > email which I did see. Actually your mailman login is joyce@svlug.org and you go the password by mail. Your svlug.org unix login you got by Steve. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From marc_news at vasoftware.com Thu Jan 24 01:39:02 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG contact at Cisco In-Reply-To: <20020123232632.A13557@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> References: <200201182033.MAA26189@cisco.com> <20020123232632.A13557@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> Message-ID: <20020124093805.GI15497@merlins.org> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:26:32PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > Tracy V; we've fixed the officers page so it shows you now. In this case, we should add Tracy to the officers list, unless he'd rather not. Tracy? > Marc, we've cleaned up most of the other dead wood on the officers > page, showing some new job openings. We can announce them next > meeting. That page still needs more work, but it's better now. Thanks for the page. Note that outside of the web team, most of the positions were positions that were created after someone offered to join and help with that. We don't actually need an education coordinator or a publicity team. As for sysadmin, now that I bit the bullet and installed the system from my server load, I'd rather be the official sysadmin, so the position isn't exactly open (keeping it up to date is more or less automatic, and training someone else to know the load and not break it would take much longer than the work I actually do) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From joyce at TerraLuna.Org Thu Jan 24 07:16:02 2002 From: joyce at TerraLuna.Org (Joyce Cao Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG contact at Cisco References: <200201182033.MAA26189@cisco.com> <20020123232632.A13557@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <20020124093805.GI15497@merlins.org> Message-ID: <3C5024B1.6EA851F@TerraLuna.Org> Okay, will fix it soon - before the end of this week. Joyce Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:26:32PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > > Tracy V; we've fixed the officers page so it shows you now. > > In this case, we should add Tracy to the officers list, unless he'd rather > not. > Tracy? > > > Marc, we've cleaned up most of the other dead wood on the officers > > page, showing some new job openings. We can announce them next > > meeting. That page still needs more work, but it's better now. > > Thanks for the page. > Note that outside of the web team, most of the positions were positions that > were created after someone offered to join and help with that. > We don't actually need an education coordinator or a publicity team. > > As for sysadmin, now that I bit the bullet and installed the system from my > server load, I'd rather be the official sysadmin, so the position isn't > exactly open (keeping it up to date is more or less automatic, and training > someone else to know the load and not break it would take much longer than > the work I actually do) > > Marc > -- > Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking > > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key > > _______________________________________________ > web-team mailing list > web-team@lists.svlug.org > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team From markp at blueneptune.com Thu Jan 24 10:23:01 2002 From: markp at blueneptune.com (Mark Plimley) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback- URGENT Message-ID: Say, shouldn't the SVLUG web site be all over the Micro$quash DOJ case? Under the Tunny Act, we have onlu until Monday moring, Jan 28, to comment on the Proposed Settlement, which has so many loopholes you can drive an IBM mainframe through it! You really should check out and put up a link to www.codeweavers.com/~jwhite/tunney.html. Respectfully, -`) Mark Plimley /\\ email: guru4linux@blueneptune.com _\_V From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Jan 24 13:47:02 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Jan 21, 2002 05:37:11 pm" Message-ID: <200201242145.g0OLjIK10852@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 02:39:56PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > > - Can some of the officers and/or ex-officers help Heather? This is > > getting silly. > > Heather, you really need to be answering your Email. > The web site is chronically out of date and/or changed at the last minute, > and we haven't heard back on the couple of suggestions to give you help. > > If I have to edit the web site (badly) again, we will need to add new > web-team members without your feedback, it's really ridiculous that we have > our speakers well in advance, and the web site gets updated the day before > the meeting... Sorry. Client stuff piling up is good for my mortgage, but bad for my email response time. I fell victim to a common sysadmin bug, of assuming that because some things are simple, they actually take zero time. They don't. Bummer for me! (Note, not all the "simple = zero time" items are SVLUGs. The meetings page isn't a zerotimer. That in fact is why it fell behind the desk, because it [a] isn't paid work and [b] takes more than small-N minutes.) I really *do* have to go back to being "Web Coordinator" instead of "the only SVLUG webslave but with a kinda neat title". With apologies to Winston who busts his butt to keep the linkfarm free of dust. I'm fixing meetings.shtml and its kindred now... I can be whapped on the head ANYTIME by someone paging me. That's what it is for. 800 938 4078. Do not be afraid you are "interrupting" as I use it for all communication with my out of town family when they know I might not be at home at any given hour. I approve of Margaret Wendall being added. I saw a couple of other people proposed and I see no special reason to veto them. If I have to chase down their email addresses to appove them explicitly, um, it'll take longer. I long since deliberately forgot my password on SVLUG as I only use keyed access, and 'root@svlug.org' I consider to be the domain of someone who can physically get at the box, which has never been me. I need the following Extra Tentacles: 1. someone to "own" the proper meetings page itself, meetings,shtml. That person needs to be willing to follow the template which is already in there. The front item (events.html) is much easier to keep up to date if the meetings page doesn't have to be fought with to stay in sync, and the past meetings page is easy enough to maintain as long as the meetings page stays in the current format. 2. someone to "own" the directions page for Cisco building 9. This isn't hard work, but as construction goes on forever it just needs to be twiddled once in a while. A little birdy helps whisper to me about this sometimes. Having someone take it on directly would be better. 3. someone to "own" the installfest page. If I get enough off my plate (heh) I'd be willing to do this myself, but the page is unattractive and therefore clumsy to read. The 'fest coordinator used to maintain this himself but that was one or two 'fest coord's ago. It needs much less work than other pages. 4. We have no CGI wizard, and have not for a while. COLA is brain damaged and we need to think of something. The webfetch version is quite old. I'm not sure the news widget works, but I think that is merely that all the cronjobs were tweaked a long while back and only the RCS-isn't-up-to-date gadget was reenabled. In order of importance, 1, then 4, then 2, then 3. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Jan 24 14:12:02 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] (no subject) In-Reply-To: from Jim at "Jan 23, 2002 08:40:08 am" Message-ID: <200201242211.g0OMB8q10955@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > Hello, > > I was wondering if you sell advertising to webhosts? We have a new product > we are launching as well as new lower pricing on existing plans. No, we do not. All of our "sponsors" are companies or entities who have directly contributed hardware or personnel to SVLUG's use. SVLUG maintains no treasury and has no intent to develop one. Many of our website regulars have a moral opposition to banner ads; some don't. In deference to the majority, our spinners are not advertisement sized and do not interfere with normal viewing space. > 20 cents per gig of transfer. This is for a dedicated 10mbs connection > which will deliver approx. 3000 gigs per month. (This equates to $600/mo.) > Virtual accounts are in $50 increments. The price is $1 per gig. > ($50/50gig, $100/$100gig...) > We also have dedicated and co-located plans. > > We are in the process of developing a new site and banners for this > pricing structure (20centsagig.com) and will be ready to purchase > advertising soon. Our current site is www.atomichosts.com. Please remove us from your contact list, as we expect to remain completely UN-interested in banner ad services of any sort whatsoever. Failure to comply with this request may result in you being submitted to blacklist indices. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From stevegt at TerraLuna.Org Thu Jan 24 14:42:02 2002 From: stevegt at TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <200201242145.g0OLjIK10852@betelgeuse.starshine.org>; from star@betelgeuse.starshine.org on Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:45:18PM -0800 References: <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org> <200201242145.g0OLjIK10852@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20020124144129.A27017@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:45:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > Sorry. Client stuff piling up is good for my mortgage, but bad for my email > response time. I fell victim to a common sysadmin bug, of assuming that > because some things are simple, they actually take zero time. They don't. > Bummer for me! (Note, not all the "simple = zero time" items are SVLUGs. > The meetings page isn't a zerotimer. That in fact is why it fell behind the > desk, because it [a] isn't paid work and [b] takes more than small-N minutes.) > I really *do* have to go back to being "Web Coordinator" instead of "the only > SVLUG webslave but with a kinda neat title". With apologies to Winston who > busts his butt to keep the linkfarm free of dust. Who's Winston? He's not on officers.shtml... > I'm fixing meetings.shtml and its kindred now... Joyce and I already did, last night, as well as officers.shtml -- as we said in our message last night, we removed most of the people listed there who are no longer around. I have to tell you, I was shocked when Marc showed me how small the SVLUG team is, compared to what the web site claimed. I thought I was signing up as a member of a much larger team, and would have much more support than what turned out to be reality. We've got to keep that page up to date, so we can keep positions filled as they are vacated. > I can be whapped on the head ANYTIME by someone paging me. That's what it > is for. 800 938 4078. Do not be afraid you are "interrupting" as I use it > for all communication with my out of town family when they know I might not > be at home at any given hour. Ian "fired" me once, as CVS administrator and hosting provider for the ERPS group, because I couldn't keep up with my mail. I kept giving the group my 800 number, but nobody would call. I was pretty upset. It took me lots of procmail and perl code and two years of work to catch up on my inbox, but after getting caught up, in retrospect I think he did the right thing. Heather, we've been scrambling this past week to get things put together without you. We didn't remove your name from officers.shtml during the cleanup because I consider you a good friend. We still love you. Swooping back in and "taking charge" again right now is the wrong thing to do though. You're still behind on your mail, and haven't even caught up to the traffic about Joyce. Take care of your clients and yourself -- that *is* most important; if you can't take care of yourself, you're no use to anyone else. Stick around, get caught up on your mail, and we'll see how much load you can handle as you dig out over the next few months. > I approve of Margaret Wendall being added. I saw a couple of other > people proposed and I see no special reason to veto them. If I have > to chase down their email addresses to appove them explicitly, um, > it'll take longer. Tell you what -- I'll help Joyce go through the recent web-team archives, see who else makes sense, and add them to the list. > I need the following Extra Tentacles: > 1. someone to "own" the proper meetings page itself, meetings,shtml. > That person needs to be willing to follow the template which is > already in there. Ownership is ownership, not stewardship. That page is a wreck, and needs to be reworked in terms of how it's updated. It needs to be automated, as does the meeting announcement on the home page. I'll help Joyce do that, with input from Ian. > 4. We have no CGI wizard, and have not for a while. We do now. Steve -- . . ` * Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org From tfowler at cisco.com Thu Jan 24 14:52:01 2002 From: tfowler at cisco.com (Tracy Fowler) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: SVLUG contact at Cisco In-Reply-To: <20020123232632.A13557@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> References: <200201182033.MAA26189@cisco.com> <200201182033.MAA26189@cisco.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020124084345.0260e798@mail1.cisco.com> looks great! Technical Leader is the right title. Please thank Joyce. I think we are all squared away then. Feel free to ping me if you need anything from me and thank you for all your help! Tracy At 11:26 PM 1/23/2002, Steve Traugott wrote: >Tracy F; we've recruited a new webmaster (my wife, Joyce) ;-) and >she's updated the site. Check it over and make sure we've got things >right. Link to it at will. Nit -- is your title "Technical Lead" or >"Technical Leader"? > >Tracy V; we've fixed the officers page so it shows you now. > >Marc, we've cleaned up most of the other dead wood on the officers >page, showing some new job openings. We can announce them next >meeting. That page still needs more work, but it's better now. > >Ian; Joyce and I have some rework/automation ideas we'll likely >implement to streamline the way speakers are added and managed -- we >might bounce them off of you next time we meet. Also, let us know if >you had any unfinished work on the site you'd like to see finished. > >I'm out of town (checking mail and messages) next week, Joyce is here. > >Steve > > >On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 12:33:32PM -0800, Ian Kluft wrote: >> I got your voice mail asking about the SVLUG room reservation contact at >> Cisco. His name is Tracy Vierra (tracyv@cisco.com). >> >> Heh... I guess this is "Tracy, meet Tracy". :-) I've CC'ed him on this >> message since you said you wanted to double-check some things about the >> room. Since you also asked about sending announcements to SVLUG, I'll >> also CC this to SVLUG's 2002 speaker coordinator, Steve Traugott - he can >> include any speaker info you have with his meeting announcements. >> > >-- > . . ` * >Steve Traugott ` . * + Speaker Coordinator >Infrastructure Architect + ` Silicon Valley >stevegt@TerraLuna.Org ' * . ' +` * Linux Users Group >http://www.stevegt.com/ http://www.svlug.org Tracy Fowler Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134 From marc_news at vasoftware.com Thu Jan 24 14:56:03 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <20020124144129.A27017@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <200201242145.g0OLjIK10852@betelgeuse.starshine.org> References: <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org> <200201242145.g0OLjIK10852@betelgeuse.starshine.org> <20020124144129.A27017@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <20020122013711.GS6500@merlins.org> <200201242145.g0OLjIK10852@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20020124225540.GE19823@merlins.org> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:45:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > I'm fixing meetings.shtml and its kindred now... Thanks. > I approve of Margaret Wendall being added. I saw a couple of other people > proposed and I see no special reason to veto them. If I have to chase down > their email addresses to appove them explicitly, um, it'll take longer. I We already have a new member as you probably read. Let's see how it works now. On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 02:41:29PM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote: > > SVLUG webslave but with a kinda neat title". With apologies to Winston who > > busts his butt to keep the linkfarm free of dust. > > Who's Winston? He's not on officers.shtml... Winston is no more, his Email bounces and I haven't seen him at the meetings in a while. > Heather, we've been scrambling this past week to get things put > together without you. We didn't remove your name from officers.shtml > during the cleanup because I consider you a good friend. We still > love you. Swooping back in and "taking charge" again right now is the > wrong thing to do though. You're still behind on your mail, and > haven't even caught up to the traffic about Joyce. Agreed, and this is not the first time, and half the time it was 2nd and 3rd reminders for speaker information that had been made known for a while. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Jan 24 17:03:02 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <20020124225540.GE19823@merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Jan 24, 2002 02:55:40 pm" Message-ID: <200201250016.g0P0GID11811@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:45:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > > I'm fixing meetings.shtml and its kindred now... > > Thanks. you're welcome, even if I'm late to the party ;> > > I approve of Margaret Wendall being added. I saw a couple of other people > > proposed and I see no special reason to veto them. If I have to chase down > > their email addresses to appove them explicitly, um, it'll take longer. I > > We already have a new member as you probably read. Let's see how it works > now. I think that there is enough work at hand that more than one new member would still be good. We did well when we had five active people and a few loose hands. Two is barely enough for either to get time away for other leisure-time things. As the overload victim :/ I don't want to see Joyce fall victim to the same when we can do better all at once. > > Who's Winston? He's not on officers.shtml... > Winston is no more, his Email bounces and I haven't seen him at the meetings > in a while. Hmmm. Sorry to hear that. Oh well. Add to the tentacles, I need a linkfarm maintainer. > > Heather, we've been scrambling this past week to get things put > > together without you. We didn't remove your name from officers.shtml > > during the cleanup because I consider you a good friend. We still > > love you. Swooping back in and "taking charge" again right now is the > > wrong thing to do though. You're still behind on your mail, and > > haven't even caught up to the traffic about Joyce. > > Agreed, and this is not the first time, and half the time it was 2nd and 3rd > reminders for speaker information that had been made known for a while. > > Marc Frankly when it was less info, it was easier to drop in. Cut and paste is a chore. I'm glad to hand that portion off to Joyce. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Jan 24 17:03:04 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <20020124144129.A27017@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> from Steve Traugott at "Jan 24, 2002 02:41:29 pm" Message-ID: <200201250011.g0P0BEg11776@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:45:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > > Sorry. Client stuff piling up is good for my mortgage, but bad for my email > > response time. I fell victim to a common sysadmin bug, of assuming that > > because some things are simple, they actually take zero time. They don't. > > Bummer for me! (Note, not all the "simple = zero time" items are SVLUGs. > > The meetings page isn't a zerotimer. That in fact is why it fell behind the > > desk, because it [a] isn't paid work and [b] takes more than small-N minutes.) > > I really *do* have to go back to being "Web Coordinator" instead of "the only > > SVLUG webslave but with a kinda neat title". With apologies to Winston who > > busts his butt to keep the linkfarm free of dust. > > Who's Winston? He's not on officers.shtml... Winston is my other active companion on the web team. I see him on the list every once in a while. He basically agreed to own the link farm, which is huge, and leave the rest to me except for an occasional moment here and there. When the webteam was near a dozen people only three had titles. Linkfarm herder was never one of them; though perhaps it should be, it suits us fine that the whole web-team gets link complaints/offers, since then we can discuss whether new links are worthy. > > I'm fixing meetings.shtml and its kindred now... > > Joyce and I already did, last night, as well as officers.shtml -- as > we said in our message last night, we removed most of the people > listed there who are no longer around. The layout has been repaired so the bigger blabs are 3-across cells, and older months have been moved to prevmeet. There is now a clean "template" usable for cloning at the mid-top of meetings.shtml, so it should be much easier to drop in upcoming months with the right layout now, and not too much to snip. Hope that helps. > I have to tell you, I was shocked when Marc showed me how small the > SVLUG team is, compared to what the web site claimed. I thought I was > signing up as a member of a much larger team, and would have much more > support than what turned out to be reality. We've got to keep that > page up to date, so we can keep positions filled as they are vacated. At one point in time the team was large enough to need one of the bigger tables at Chevy's. About 8 to 10 people. But when folks stepped out for life reasons or social misgivings, things kinda floated along and we didn't gain any. Losing Lisa hurt the worst; I didn't realize how much help the automata were. > > I can be whapped on the head ANYTIME by someone paging me. That's what it > > is for. 800 938 4078. Do not be afraid you are "interrupting" as I use it > > for all communication with my out of town family when they know I might not > > be at home at any given hour. > > Ian "fired" me once, as CVS administrator and hosting provider for the > ERPS group, because I couldn't keep up with my mail. I kept giving > the group my 800 number, but nobody would call. I was pretty upset. > It took me lots of procmail and perl code and two years of work to > catch up on my inbox, but after getting caught up, in retrospect I > think he did the right thing. I have a habit which *tends* to keep me up on my inbox. Specifically, I *don't* pre-filter, and lists whose traffic is so heavy I simply can't even try to keep up, I fire. None of these change the fact that when my office becomes a machine lab, my console is busy. Once upon an age ago I was considered odd even among my social group, for responding to mail in less than a day, even some of the time. Nowadays if I don't respond within three people make "where's H?" noises. I really can't win that if I plan to call it a battle... And then there's the Haze I go into when I start processing Linux Gazette and don't come back out the other end for about 4 days. I actually DO read mail during that time, but I don't respond very well. Otherwise starting my mailer tends to eat a few hours best spent elsewhere in most cases. > Heather, we've been scrambling this past week to get things put > together without you. We didn't remove your name from officers.shtml > during the cleanup because I consider you a good friend. We still > love you. Swooping back in and "taking charge" again right now is the > wrong thing to do though. You're still behind on your mail, and > haven't even caught up to the traffic about Joyce. I've spoken with Joyce and advised her that I approve of her joining the team. I'm perfectly happy for her to take Tentacle Number One, she seems web clued, and it's a good thing. checklist of SVLUG-ish things -- 1. meetings current (check, you did most of that, thanks!) 2. known future meetings mentioned (?) 3. is the linkfarm actually clean? (lynx-traverse check) (human traversal takes long but I dunno when Winston last did that.) 4. 'fest page needs total cleanup... but I don't think that was a matter on mail specifically, it's just been piling up. 5. continued merging of mailman/normal website interfaces so the evil layout mailman uses is either fixed to match, or is wrappered. (netiquette has been okay for a month or two but the links across are poor and hard to use.) > Take care of your clients and yourself -- that *is* most important; if > you can't take care of yourself, you're no use to anyone else. Stick > around, get caught up on your mail, and we'll see how much load you > can handle as you dig out over the next few months. Thx. > > I approve of Margaret Wendall being added. I saw a couple of other > > people proposed and I see no special reason to veto them. If I have > > to chase down their email addresses to appove them explicitly, um, > > it'll take longer. > > Tell you what -- I'll help Joyce go through the recent web-team > archives, see who else makes sense, and add them to the list. Thanks bunches! :D As I mentioned to Joyce I may have to fetch Margaret's address from other sources, I'm not sure how well or even if Marc knows Margaret (she's a fest regular) so he probably would not have auto-approved her without comment. There was someone at last month's afterdinner who seemed good ... Ian recommended him highly enough for me ... but sadly, I've spaced on his name. > > I need the following Extra Tentacles: > > 1. someone to "own" the proper meetings page itself, meetings,shtml. > > That person needs to be willing to follow the template which is > > already in there. > > Ownership is ownership, not stewardship. That page is a wreck, and > needs to be reworked in terms of how it's updated. It needs to be > automated, as does the meeting announcement on the home page. I agree. BayLISA has a trick whereby a fairly plain text file roughly of the form: Speaker: John Q Public Topic: Real End Users Using Linux Speaker-URL: http://www.my.site.net/ Abstract: ...free form text here a'la email... The filename controls which date it's for, which may not be the brightest thing, but works over there. (there are things that don't work over there too, or I would have just dragged it across at some point.) In our case we could also add "Bio:" so it gets its own box, but this kind of thing certainly could be done by Joyce with a friendly perl script, I suspect... And to explicitly state, the "BALUG" Item on the front box is part of an agreement between Marc and me, that now that BALUG has a serious Speaker Coordinator (and thus they have speakers ahead) it can be listed there, amd ...changing hats momentarily... SVLUG can be cross-mentioned and linked from BALUG too. ...back to the usual hat now.... > I'll help Joyce do that, with input from Ian. > > > 4. We have no CGI wizard, and have not for a while. > > We do now. > Steve Excellent. The last shot at it around the time Lisa was stepping down, was someone wanted to do a Yahoo! stocks widget, but he didn't want to do anything else CGI related, and the team didn't feel he was trying to be a team player, so he didn't end up doing his thing either. Welcome aboard. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Jan 24 21:25:02 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Smaug listing on http://www.svlug.org/farm.shtml#other-local Message-ID: <20020125052427.GH5020@linuxmafia.com> There used to be an entry there (see Subject header) for what was then called "SMAUG: Santa Cruz Microsoft-Alternative User Group". Some time last year, the link got removed (with reason). But the group got revived late last year, dropped the dumb acronym so that it's now called "Smaug" without that standing for anything, and is more active than it's ever been. See: http://www.scruz.org/ You might want to add a line for that group, then. Also, the line for Consortium of All Bay Area Linux should be updated to say "Menlo Park" instead of "San Francisco". Thanks. -- Cheers, If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ give you enough Rick Moen to bind and gag your neighbourhood, rig the sails on a small ship, rick@linuxmafia.com and still have enough to hang yourself from the yardarm. From joyce at TerraLuna.Org Thu Jan 24 23:47:01 2002 From: joyce at TerraLuna.Org (Joyce Cao Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help References: <200201250016.g0P0GID11811@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <3C510D07.F991A54@TerraLuna.Org> When I make changes to the page, do I need to get a approval from anyone. If I do, what is the best and most effective way. Joyce Heather wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:45:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > > > I'm fixing meetings.shtml and its kindred now... > > > > Thanks. > > you're welcome, even if I'm late to the party ;> > > > > I approve of Margaret Wendall being added. I saw a couple of other people > > > proposed and I see no special reason to veto them. If I have to chase down > > > their email addresses to appove them explicitly, um, it'll take longer. I > > > > We already have a new member as you probably read. Let's see how it works > > now. > > I think that there is enough work at hand that more than one new member would > still be good. > > We did well when we had five active people and a few loose hands. Two is > barely enough for either to get time away for other leisure-time things. As > the overload victim :/ I don't want to see Joyce fall victim to the same > when we can do better all at once. > > > > Who's Winston? He's not on officers.shtml... > > Winston is no more, his Email bounces and I haven't seen him at the meetings > > in a while. > > Hmmm. Sorry to hear that. Oh well. Add to the tentacles, I need a linkfarm > maintainer. > > > > Heather, we've been scrambling this past week to get things put > > > together without you. We didn't remove your name from officers.shtml > > > during the cleanup because I consider you a good friend. We still > > > love you. Swooping back in and "taking charge" again right now is the > > > wrong thing to do though. You're still behind on your mail, and > > > haven't even caught up to the traffic about Joyce. > > > > Agreed, and this is not the first time, and half the time it was 2nd and 3rd > > reminders for speaker information that had been made known for a while. > > > > Marc > > Frankly when it was less info, it was easier to drop in. Cut and paste is > a chore. I'm glad to hand that portion off to Joyce. > > . | . Heather Stern > --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator > > _______________________________________________ > web-team mailing list > web-team@lists.svlug.org > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team From marc_news at vasoftware.com Fri Jan 25 00:31:03 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <3C510D07.F991A54@TerraLuna.Org> <200201250011.g0P0BEg11776@betelgeuse.starshine.org> <200201250016.g0P0GID11811@betelgeuse.starshine.org> References: <200201250016.g0P0GID11811@betelgeuse.starshine.org> <3C510D07.F991A54@TerraLuna.Org> <20020124144129.A27017@scramjet.TerraLuna.Org> <200201250011.g0P0BEg11776@betelgeuse.starshine.org> <20020124225540.GE19823@merlins.org> <200201250016.g0P0GID11811@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20020125083021.GO15497@merlins.org> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:16:18PM -0800, Heather wrote: > > We already have a new member as you probably read. Let's see how it works > > now. > > I think that there is enough work at hand that more than one new member would > still be good. Maybe. I'll let Joyce decide of that. > We did well when we had five active people and a few loose hands. Two is > barely enough for either to get time away for other leisure-time things. As One member is enough if the said person has enough time. Again, I'll defer to Joyce On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:11:14PM -0800, Heather wrote: > Winston is my other active companion on the web team. I see him on the list > every once in a while. He basically agreed to own the link farm, which is > huge, and leave the rest to me except for an occasional moment here and there. If you talk to him, tell him he's been off the web-team for several months since his mail started bouncing and we never heard from him again. > I have a habit which *tends* to keep me up on my inbox. Specifically, > I *don't* pre-filter, and lists whose traffic is so heavy I simply can't > even try to keep up, I fire. I don't pre-filter either, but I use mutt coloring, which lets me see what I want to. That's how I keep up. I've also included your personal Email address in the headers in addition to the web-team address in the hope that your mail config would highlight your personal mail, but that didn't work. On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 11:45:11PM -0800, Joyce Cao Traugott wrote: > When I make changes to the page, do I need to get a approval from anyone. > If I do, what is the best and most effective way. You don't. I am effectively putting you in charge. RCS lets us roll changes back if needed anyway (although RCS sucks, we should really convert the whole thing to CVS, which would also allow for a staging tree) Heather is obviously still welcome to help as her time permits and/or can give you advise and help you with location of things and the current organization. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Jan 25 08:28:01 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Cisco rep, Feb announcement, web team help In-Reply-To: <3C510D07.F991A54@TerraLuna.Org> from Joyce Cao Traugott at "Jan 24, 2002 11:45:11 pm" Message-ID: <200201251627.g0PGRQj14427@betelgeuse.starshine.org> [Charset gb2312 unsupported, skipping...] [Hmm, I suppose I oughta poke my mailer about that.] > When I make changes to the page, do I need to get a approval from > anyone. If I do, what is the best and most effective way. > > Joyce No. Once you're a member of the web team the only thing asked is that the style of the resulting site remain consistent; if we want to redesign the overall appearace, we have meetings so it can be discussed at high bandwidth. I think the backdrop and nav that Amy laid out still work fine. When I asked for someone to "own" the meetings area, I meant it :> And since we're the only hands we've got, tying them by making us have to confer all the time doesn't seem like a feature. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Jan 25 10:13:02 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:35 2005 Subject: [web-team] News updated Message-ID: <200201251812.g0PIC4g14737@betelgeuse.starshine.org> On the prompting of an SVLUG member I added a pointer to Codeweavers' encouragement to comment on MS' settlement. To expire Feb 1st. Steve, I added your speakers call. It now has its own page call4speakers.shtml ...and should be sutiable for web-printouts to hand out to people. Plus I mentioned it on the news widget too, so if anyone is using headline toys to see SVLUG headlines it will get some attention there too. Anyways both of those are timely matters and I figured they should go up before Joyce has to wade through too much mail to find them. I'm considering putting an expire on Marc Merlins' conference repots but they are kinda cool so I left them up there. Your opinions welcome, and if you feel particularly ardent about knocking them out, svlug-news.txt is the file to tweak. However I'm not sure if the cron jobs still spin; I forced the update. I tweaked teams/web-team.shtml to mention Joyce's presence on the team. I appreciate that you're willing to let me keep my title for the moment but she desrves some recognition for stepping up to the plate. Marc seems to think that only one person could do it if they merely paid attention, and I think he's wrong. Well perhaps he may be right, but we have other jobs (and if anyone joins who doesn't, they should have the job of looking for one, which is harder). There is more work than that here, and it's all unpaid in the monetary sense. If either of you want the title Web Software Coordinator it's yours. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Jan 25 10:32:02 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback- URGENT In-Reply-To: from Mark Plimley at "Jan 24, 2002 10:21:53 am" Message-ID: <200201251831.g0PIVPk14817@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > Say, shouldn't the SVLUG web site be all over the Micro$quash DOJ case? > Under the Tunny Act, we have onlu until Monday moring, Jan 28, to comment > on the Proposed Settlement, which has so many loopholes you can drive an > IBM mainframe through it! Thanks. Your news is up, with the external link. If you have a page of your own about it you want mentioned too, let us know. If you write a report on your views of whatever results, we can add a new item to point at your report page, similar to the conference reports. > You really should check out and put up a link to > www.codeweavers.com/~jwhite/tunney.html. > > Respectfully, > > -`) Mark Plimley > /\\ email: guru4linux@blueneptune.com > _\_V . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From marc_news at vasoftware.com Fri Jan 25 11:02:02 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] News updated In-Reply-To: <200201251812.g0PIC4g14737@betelgeuse.starshine.org> References: <200201251812.g0PIC4g14737@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20020125190146.GB26045@merlins.org> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 10:12:04AM -0800, Heather wrote: > I'm considering putting an expire on Marc Merlins' conference repots but > they are kinda cool so I left them up there. Your opinions welcome, and I don't have any problems with them expiring, it's just that we haven't put any news there in a long time, so something even older will pop up. In theory, my reports are supposed to disappear as new events are added to the list. > if you feel particularly ardent about knocking them out, svlug-news.txt > is the file to tweak. It'll probably show even older reports of mine ;-) > However I'm not sure if the cron jobs still spin; I forced the > update. I don't think they do, and I don't see the point, I've always forced the update after updating the file. Why wait for a cron job? > but she desrves some recognition for stepping up to the plate. Marc seems > to think that only one person could do it if they merely paid attention, > and I think he's wrong. Well perhaps he may be right, but we have other > jobs (and if anyone joins who doesn't, they should have the job of looking > for one, which is harder). There is more work than that here, and it's all > unpaid in the monetary sense. This was an example. I said one person _can_ do it, not one person should be enough to do it. > If either of you want the title Web Software Coordinator it's yours. Not me, but since Joyce seems to have time, and has offered her help, I think it's only fair that she gets it for now. Let me re-instate that I'll never be mad at anyone for not having time to volunteer, but I however get unhappy at people who are currently in charge but who don't have the time, and who don't let anyone know about it. This prevents us from knowing about the situation and having a chance to work with it (example: Sam Ockman, who clearly didn't have the time to be speaker coordinator anymore, and who repeatetly refused to give up his title and have other people take on the role) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Jan 25 16:36:01 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] News updated In-Reply-To: <20020125190146.GB26045@merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Jan 25, 2002 11:01:46 am" Message-ID: <200201260034.g0Q0Ynq16262@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 10:12:04AM -0800, Heather wrote: > > I'm considering putting an expire on Marc Merlins' conference repots but > > they are kinda cool so I left them up there. Your opinions welcome, and > > I don't have any problems with them expiring, it's just that we haven't put > any news there in a long time, so something even older will pop up. > In theory, my reports are supposed to disappear as new events are added to > the list. Oh, good. Then just scaring off the dust bunnies will be sufficient. The member who submitted the Tunney link, I encouraged to write a report on how the DOJ takes all our suggestions (or doesn't) so we can point to that after the obvious need to go and comment expires. > > if you feel particularly ardent about knocking them out, svlug-news.txt > > is the file to tweak. > > It'll probably show even older reports of mine ;-) :D > > However I'm not sure if the cron jobs still spin; I forced the > > update. > > I don't think they do, and I don't see the point, I've always forced the > update after updating the file. Why wait for a cron job? Fair enough. >> but she desrves some recognition for stepping up to the plate. Marc seems >> to think that only one person could do it if they merely paid attention, >> and I think he's wrong. Well perhaps he may be right, but we have other >> jobs (and if anyone joins who doesn't, they should have the job of looking >> for one, which is harder). There is more work than that here, and it's all >> unpaid in the monetary sense. > > This was an example. I said one person _can_ do it, not one person should be > enough to do it. > > > If either of you want the title Web Software Coordinator it's yours. > > Not me, but since Joyce seems to have time, and has offered her help, I > think it's only fair that she gets it for now. If she doesn't object, of course. > Let me re-instate that I'll never be mad at anyone for not having time to > volunteer, but I however get unhappy at people who are currently in charge > but who don't have the time, and who don't let anyone know about it. Good. I had mentioned it - rather blatantly, I made it one of the announces at a meeting a few months ago - but we just didn't get the concurrence of contacts, approval, and account setups to really get at least a couple more hands aboard. It's happening now, and it shouldn't stop at just one. In other words we should try to put at bay the idea that one of us flaking out in the permanent sense (like Winston did) would dump the load on one person again. > This prevents us from knowing about the situation and having a chance to > work with it (example: Sam Ockman, who clearly didn't have the time to be > speaker coordinator anymore, and who repeatetly refused to give up his title > and have other people take on the role) Well, he was point-blank asked to hand it over - more than once, nicely at first - and made lots of "uh no, *I* am the Speaker guy, *I* will do it" noises, until we just had to get the pitchforks. I certainly haven't been *that* bad. But enough defense crap :) Y'all forced me to go and check all the rest of my .org work for dust too, which certainly isn't a bad thing. Possibly excluding my own shoemaker's-child website ... ;P . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From jack at arco-iris.com Sat Jan 26 16:48:02 2002 From: jack at arco-iris.com (Jack Rains) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] Fwd: Important! Microsoft Help Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020126175246.00bbe8e0@216.117.128.94> > > >This page will not exist long! Go now! > > > >this is too good not to pass on! > >http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%20-% >20HOWTO.htm From lux at whiplash.stampede.org Sun Jan 27 00:48:02 2002 From: lux at whiplash.stampede.org (lux@stampede.org) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] SVLUG's indexing of my posts Message-ID: Webmaster of SVLUG, I request having my name and/or posts removed from your website archive of mailing lists. While I realize that posting to mailing lists is a semi-public activity (those on the list can read it) I gave no authorization for that writing to be published on any website without my concent. I would appreciate your timely action to rectify the situation. Thank you, Alyce "Lisa" Meserve formerly of pooka@intrex.net That shot is impossible! Jack Nicholson himself couldn't make it! -- Homer Simpson Scenes From The Class Struggle In Springfield From joyce at TerraLuna.Org Sun Jan 27 21:45:02 2002 From: joyce at TerraLuna.Org (Joyce Cao Traugott) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] Smaug listing on http://www.svlug.org/farm.shtml#other-local References: <20020125052427.GH5020@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <3C54E4E8.5A26CA10@TerraLuna.Org> Done! Joyce Rick Moen wrote: > There used to be an entry there (see Subject header) for what was > then called "SMAUG: Santa Cruz Microsoft-Alternative User Group". > Some time last year, the link got removed (with reason). > > But the group got revived late last year, dropped the dumb acronym so > that it's now called "Smaug" without that standing for anything, and is > more active than it's ever been. See: > > http://www.scruz.org/ > > You might want to add a line for that group, then. > > Also, the line for Consortium of All Bay Area Linux should be updated > to say "Menlo Park" instead of "San Francisco". Thanks. > > -- > Cheers, If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ give you enough > Rick Moen to bind and gag your neighbourhood, rig the sails on a small ship, > rick@linuxmafia.com and still have enough to hang yourself from the yardarm. > > _______________________________________________ > web-team mailing list > web-team@lists.svlug.org > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team From rick at linuxmafia.com Sun Jan 27 22:23:02 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] Smaug listing on http://www.svlug.org/farm.shtml#other-local In-Reply-To: <3C54E4E8.5A26CA10@TerraLuna.Org> References: <20020125052427.GH5020@linuxmafia.com> <3C54E4E8.5A26CA10@TerraLuna.Org> Message-ID: <20020128062223.GL5020@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Joyce Cao Traugott (joyce@TerraLuna.Org): > Done! Thanks, Joyce! From marc_news at vasoftware.com Sun Jan 27 22:52:01 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] News updated In-Reply-To: <200201260034.g0Q0Ynq16262@betelgeuse.starshine.org>; from star@betelgeuse.starshine.org on Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:34:49PM -0800 References: <20020125190146.GB26045@merlins.org> <200201260034.g0Q0Ynq16262@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20020127212859.B1465@merlins.org> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:34:49PM -0800, Heather wrote: > Well, he was point-blank asked to hand it over - more than once, nicely at > first - and made lots of "uh no, *I* am the Speaker guy, *I* will do it" > noises, until we just had to get the pitchforks. I certainly haven't been > *that* bad. I didn't say you had been, I was illustrating my point, which was more generic than anything else (stating my position on the subject) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From fred at mail.rons.net.cn Mon Jan 28 06:37:01 2002 From: fred at mail.rons.net.cn (Hong Feng) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] distribute FSM Message-ID: <200201282231.GAA52592@mail.rons.net.cn> Hi, FREE SOFTWARE magazine published on Jan 15, 2002, it is the only one monthly free (the free in freedom) periodical devoted to the global free software community, both the web version and the paper version are free to copy and redistribute. the pdf file of first issue is now freely downloadable from our web site: http://www.rons.net.cn/english/FSM/ISSUE01/issue01pdf.tar.bz2 If you are interested in distributing the paper copies for SVLUG members or in US, pls contact with me, or take a look at http://www.rons.net.cn/english/FSM/orderinfo Best, Frederic -- ------------------------------------------ Hong Feng Publisher, Free Software Magazine fred@mail.rons.net.cn hongfeng@gnu.org http://www.rons.net.cn/hongfeng.html ------------------------------------------ From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Mon Jan 28 09:03:01 2002 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] News updated In-Reply-To: <20020127212859.B1465@merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Jan 27, 2002 09:28:59 pm" Message-ID: <200201281702.g0SH25Y28951@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:34:49PM -0800, Heather wrote: > > Well, he was point-blank asked to hand it over - more than once, nicely at > > first - and made lots of "uh no, *I* am the Speaker guy, *I* will do it" > > noises, until we just had to get the pitchforks. I certainly haven't been > > *that* bad. > > I didn't say you had been, I was illustrating my point, which was more > generic than anything else (stating my position on the subject) no offense offered, none taken! :D . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From marc at merlins.org Mon Jan 28 21:29:02 2002 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] SVLUG's indexing of my posts In-Reply-To: ; from lux@whiplash.stampede.org on Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 11:14:08PM -0800 References: <20020127214301.E1465@merlins.org> <20020127214301.E1465@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20020128074145.A1751@merlins.org> [please do not drop Ccs] On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 11:14:08PM -0800, lux@stampede.org wrote: > Marc, > Thanks for the quick response. > I would appreciate if you'd point me to where I can find > documentation of where your posting rules are, and if possible, a copy Click on the mailing list button in the sidebar on www.svlug.org, and that page will bring you to the mailman subscribe page > that was relevant for the dates that I posted (Dec 1998). Nope, this page has long been gone. Also, back then we were still using majordomo. You then probably remember the announcement of our switch to mailman, the fact that it had archives, and the 2 or 3 announcements that Rick Moen did saying that he also had a web archive of the list. On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 11:15:08PM -0800, lux@stampede.org wrote: > Marc, > Also, the several of the posts I made were on another LUG mailing > list. I'd like to see the documentation relating to that as well. Uh? We aren't responsible for other LUG lists. Just for the record, purging messages from our archive, and regenerating it takes about 2 days on the svlug box (don't ask), and creates a hole and small corruption in the current archives for new posts while the master archive is still being rebuilt, so that's not going to happen. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From marc_news at vasoftware.com Mon Jan 28 21:29:09 2002 From: marc_news at vasoftware.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] Fwd: Important! Microsoft Help In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020126175246.00bbe8e0@216.117.128.94>; from jack@arco-iris.com on Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 05:53:28PM -0500 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020126175246.00bbe8e0@216.117.128.94> Message-ID: <20020128172839.L1751@merlins.org> On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 05:53:28PM -0500, Jack Rains wrote: > >This page will not exist long! Go now! > > > > >this is too good not to pass on! > > > >http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%20-% > >20HOWTO.htm Pfff, I can't believe people still fall for this one. The site you query is hardware.no, not microsoft.com (due to '@' in the URL) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From guru4linux at blueneptune.com Thu Jan 31 11:11:02 2002 From: guru4linux at blueneptune.com (Mark Plimley) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:36 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website Message-ID: <3C59968C.68723619@blueneptune.com> Yo, Did you see the short article in today's Merc? In the Tech Ticker column in the Business section, the article reads: "Linux kit to run on Playstation 2 "The Linux operating system is coming to Sony's Playstation 2. "The $199 kit, which will be sold at Sony's Web site starting in May, includes a 40 GB internal hard disk drive, network adapter, keyboard and mouse, and "Linux (for Playstation 2)" Version 1.0 on two DVDs. "Rather, the kit will run Linux-based software and allow users to create their own programs that run on the Playstation 2's proprietary system." -- -`) Mark Plimley /\\ email: guru4linux@blueneptune.com _\_V