From scseh at corecess.com Mon Dec 9 15:08:15 2002 From: scseh at corecess.com (Steve Cseh) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:42 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast Message-ID: <001301c29fd7$dbd660c0$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> I heard a CNET Radio announcement regarding an upcoming InstallFest. The CNET announcement gave out the URL http://www.svlug.org to get more information. I just went to that URL and found that the website is not updated. * It looks like the SVLUG News frame on Home Page was last updated June 27, 2002 * I went to the Events link, then clicked on the InstallFest Link, which re-directed me to http://www.svlug.org/installfest/index.shtml * This page appears to have been last updated around the September 2002 timeframe because of reference to "September 21" as next workshop. * This page also indicates that Accent Technologies is the new site for the InstallFest and directs you to Map/Directions frame on same page, which is blank, although clicking on it does direct you to Yahoo Maps page mapping 1880 Hartog Drive in San Jose. * There is no mention of the upcoming 3rd Saturday December InstallFest Because the website has outdated webpages, I am not sure what is accurate. I am not complaining, just letting you know that the posted information is confusing and not updated. I really want to come to the InstallFest, but I don't have confidence in the posted information on the website because it is not updated. Signed Enthusiastic Linux Newbee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20021209/9b96fa2e/attachment.html From incubus at shell.izap.com Mon Dec 9 15:24:10 2002 From: incubus at shell.izap.com (Brian Chrisman) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:42 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <001301c29fd7$dbd660c0$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> "from Steve Cseh at Dec 9, 2002 03:08:15 pm" Message-ID: <20021209232421Z402701-29184+4@shell.izap.com> They are regularly occuring events... announcements go out over the svlug-announce list. I was updating the website.. then someone else started doing it... now it's no longer being updated. I can take over and start doing it again if it'll help. > I heard a CNET Radio announcement regarding an upcoming InstallFest. > The CNET announcement gave out the URL > http://www.svlug.org to get more information. > > I just went to that URL and found that the website is not updated. > > > * It looks like the SVLUG News frame on Home Page was last updated > June 27, 2002 > * I went to the Events link, then clicked on the InstallFest Link, > which re-directed me to > http://www.svlug.org/installfest/index.shtml > * This page appears to have been last updated around the September > 2002 timeframe because of reference to "September 21" as next workshop. > * This page also indicates that Accent Technologies is the new > site for the InstallFest and directs you to Map/Directions frame on same > page, which is blank, although clicking on it does direct you to Yahoo > Maps page mapping 1880 Hartog Drive in San Jose. > * There is no mention of the upcoming 3rd Saturday December > InstallFest > > Because the website has outdated webpages, I am not sure what is > accurate. > > I am not complaining, just letting you know that the posted information > is confusing and not updated. > > I really want to come to the InstallFest, but I don't have confidence in > the posted information on the website because it is not updated. > > Signed > > Enthusiastic Linux Newbee > > _______________________________________________ > web-team mailing list > web-team@lists.svlug.org > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team From scseh at corecess.com Mon Dec 9 16:00:45 2002 From: scseh at corecess.com (Steve Cseh) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <20021209232421Z402701-29184+4@shell.izap.com> Message-ID: <003801c29fdf$311d6a90$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> I am not trying to be critical to SVLUG in a condascending way, nor do I intend to step on anybody's toes. I am giving my constructive opinion because I believe that it is important to SVLUG and to the goal of attracting new Linux users. The information that you provided in your reply is common information to current members, but the fact that the site is not kept updated will send mixed signals to people unfamiliar with the culture and practices of SVLUG. I believe that if you maintain an updated website, then it will eliminate uncertainty regarding upcoming events and may result in a higher rate of newbies. More newbies means more Linux users, which is the goal of organizations such as yours. A website not properly updated causes one to question the attention to detail and may turn away potential newbies. Since I am saavy, and I care, I chose to write you the email. Many others less saavy may just close the page and say forget it. My interest in Linux comes from using it sparsely at my last job. My current position, has a lot of opportunities for me to use Linux, which is why I am interested in going to an InstallFest. I am also very interested because there are a lot of great Linux programs, and I wish to move away from Microsoft OS and Apps. Just to be clear, is the next InstallFest on Saturday, December 21 from 11:00am to 4:00pm at Accent Technology, 1880 Hartog Drive, San Jose, CA 95131. Bring my own PC or laptop, CDs, hub, and surge protector. Steve _____ ---Original Message----- From: incubus@shell.izap.com [mailto:incubus@shell.izap.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:24 PM To: Steve Cseh Cc: webmaster@svlug.org; marc_svlug@merlins.org Subject: Re: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast They are regularly occuring events... announcements go out over the svlug-announce list. I was updating the website.. then someone else started doing it... now it's no longer being updated. I can take over and start doing it again if it'll help. _____ > I heard a CNET Radio announcement regarding an upcoming InstallFest. > The CNET announcement gave out the URL > http://www.svlug.org to get more information. > > I just went to that URL and found that the website is not updated. > > > * It looks like the SVLUG News frame on Home Page was last updated > June 27, 2002 > * I went to the Events link, then clicked on the InstallFest Link, > which re-directed me to > http://www.svlug.org/installfest/index.shtml > * This page appears to have been last updated around the September > 2002 timeframe because of reference to "September 21" as next workshop. > * This page also indicates that Accent Technologies is the new > site for the InstallFest and directs you to Map/Directions frame on same > page, which is blank, although clicking on it does direct you to Yahoo > Maps page mapping 1880 Hartog Drive in San Jose. > * There is no mention of the upcoming 3rd Saturday December > InstallFest > > Because the website has outdated webpages, I am not sure what is > accurate. > > I am not complaining, just letting you know that the posted information > is confusing and not updated. > > I really want to come to the InstallFest, but I don't have confidence in > the posted information on the website because it is not updated. > > Signed > > Enthusiastic Linux Newbee > > _______________________________________________ > web-team mailing list > web-team@lists.svlug.org > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20021209/baa93739/attachment.htm From incubus at shell.izap.com Mon Dec 9 16:09:43 2002 From: incubus at shell.izap.com (Brian Chrisman) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <003801c29fdf$311d6a90$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> "from Steve Cseh at Dec 9, 2002 04:00:45 pm" Message-ID: <20021210000953Z402731-30885+6@shell.izap.com> Yes, that is the next installfest. As for updatedness, we do what we can.. and hopefully we'll do better.. :-) See ya there... -Brian > I am not trying to be critical to SVLUG in a condascending way, nor do I > intend to step on anybody's toes. I am giving my constructive opinion > because I believe that it is important to SVLUG and to the goal of > attracting new Linux users. > > The information that you provided in your reply is common information to > current members, but the fact that the site is not kept updated will > send mixed signals to people unfamiliar with the culture and practices > of SVLUG. > > I believe that if you maintain an updated website, then it will > eliminate uncertainty regarding upcoming events and may result in a > higher rate of newbies. > > More newbies means more Linux users, which is the goal of organizations > such as yours. > > A website not properly updated causes one to question the attention to > detail and may turn away potential newbies. Since I am saavy, and I > care, I chose to write you the email. Many others less saavy may just > close the page and say forget it. > > My interest in Linux comes from using it sparsely at my last job. My > current position, has a lot of opportunities for me to use Linux, which > is why I am interested in going to an InstallFest. > > I am also very interested because there are a lot of great Linux > programs, and I wish to move away from Microsoft OS and Apps. > > Just to be clear, is the next InstallFest on Saturday, December 21 from > 11:00am to 4:00pm at Accent Technology, 1880 Hartog Drive, San Jose, CA > 95131. Bring my own PC or laptop, CDs, hub, and surge protector. > > Steve > > > _____ > > > ---Original Message----- > From: incubus@shell.izap.com [mailto:incubus@shell.izap.com] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:24 PM > To: Steve Cseh > Cc: webmaster@svlug.org; marc_svlug@merlins.org > Subject: Re: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast > > > > They are regularly occuring events... announcements > go out over the svlug-announce list. > > I was updating the website.. then someone else started > doing it... now it's no longer being updated. I can > take over and start doing it again if it'll help. > > _____ > > > > > I heard a CNET Radio announcement regarding an upcoming InstallFest. > > The CNET announcement gave out the URL > > http://www.svlug.org to get more information. > > > > I just went to that URL and found that the website is not updated. > > > > > > * It looks like the SVLUG News frame on Home Page was last updated > > > June 27, 2002 > > * I went to the Events link, then clicked on the InstallFest Link, > > > which re-directed me to > > > http://www.svlug.org/installfest/index.shtml > > * This page appears to have been last updated around the September > > > 2002 timeframe because of reference to "September 21" as next > workshop. > > * This page also indicates that Accent Technologies is the new > > site for the InstallFest and directs you to Map/Directions frame on > same > > page, which is blank, although clicking on it does direct you to Yahoo > > > Maps page mapping 1880 Hartog Drive in San Jose. > > * There is no mention of the upcoming 3rd Saturday December > > InstallFest > > > > Because the website has outdated webpages, I am not sure what is > > accurate. > > > > I am not complaining, just letting you know that the posted > information > > is confusing and not updated. > > > > I really want to come to the InstallFest, but I don't have confidence > in > > the posted information on the website because it is not updated. > > > > Signed > > > > Enthusiastic Linux Newbee > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > web-team mailing list > > web-team@lists.svlug.org > > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team > From star at starshine.org Mon Dec 9 19:20:52 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <001301c29fd7$dbd660c0$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> References: <001301c29fd7$dbd660c0$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> Message-ID: <20021210032052.GB9263@starshine.org> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 03:08:15PM -0800, Steve Cseh wrote: > I heard a CNET Radio announcement regarding an upcoming InstallFest. > The CNET announcement gave out the URL > http://www.svlug.org to get more information. > > I just went to that URL and found that the website is not updated. > > > * It looks like the SVLUG News frame on Home Page was last updated > June 27, 2002 The right hand frame is updated more often than the left hand; this is not actually a frame, but a server side include. It is rare for SVLUG members to submit full articles... which is what the left hand side contains... therefore, it's probably accurate that that side was last updated around June. > * I went to the Events link, then clicked on the InstallFest Link, > which re-directed me to > http://www.svlug.org/installfest/index.shtml Hmm, I don't think our installfest coordinator's been keeping that updated; most of the principles of installfesting are about the same, the site *is* Accent Technologies on Hartog, but that's been true for awhile so to call it "new" isn't terribly accurate anymore. I suppose I ought to update this; thanks for the clonk on the head, I need one of those every once in a while :) > * This page appears to have been last updated around the September > 2002 timeframe because of reference to "September 21" as next workshop. The coordinator doesn't always get around to updating this page, but we have the Third Saturday *every* month. > * This page also indicates that Accent Technologies is the new > site for the InstallFest and directs you to Map/Directions frame on same > page, which is blank, although clicking on it does direct you to Yahoo > Maps page mapping 1880 Hartog Drive in San Jose. Hotlink to a map broke. Sorry. I'll fix that too. > * There is no mention of the upcoming 3rd Saturday December > InstallFest It's every month whether we tweak or not. I hadn't realize this needed to be put on the spinner as it were. Maybe I can have one of our cronjobs set it up. > Because the website has outdated webpages, I am not sure what is > accurate. Installfest: 3rd Saturday /in December 2002 that'd be Dec 21/ Accent Technologies on Hartog, basically around the area of San Jose's Frys. 11 am to 4 pm. We don't usually have extra monitors; a fresh install generally takes more than 2 hours because mucking around in the menus takes a while. So bring your hardware, and if you arrive after 1 or 2 pm, be very sure what you want or you may not complete your install before we have to leave. > I am not complaining, just letting you know that the posted information > is confusing and not updated. I think I will rearrange the page a bit; the info there is really too long for one page at this point, and I hope that would help. Ok if I poke you to take a look at it after I've revamped it? > I really want to come to the InstallFest, but I don't have confidence in > the posted information on the website because it is not updated. > > Signed > Enthusiastic Linux Newbee There's a batch of 3 or 4 clued regulars in addition to the folks who come to get their systems set up; you should have a lot of fun at our installfests. Thanks for the note . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at starshine.org Mon Dec 9 19:23:52 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <20021210000953Z402731-30885+6@shell.izap.com> References: <003801c29fdf$311d6a90$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> <20021210000953Z402731-30885+6@shell.izap.com> Message-ID: <20021210032352.GC9263@starshine.org> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:09:43PM -0800, Brian Chrisman wrote: > Yes, that is the next installfest. > As for updatedness, we do what we can.. and hopefully > we'll do better.. :-) > > See ya there... > -Brian Yep, Brian's got the right of it. One way or another, we'll try to make the page a little better. Sorry about the update troubles :) (Brian's the 'fest coordinator, actually, so if there's any conflict among the web team, what he says goes on the page. For the record.) . | . Heather Stern | star@starshine.org --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - consulting@starshine.org ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training | (800) 938-4078 From scseh at corecess.com Mon Dec 9 19:36:16 2002 From: scseh at corecess.com (Steve Cseh) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <20021210032052.GB9263@starshine.org> Message-ID: <001101c29ffd$4ed2b810$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> Heather Thanks for the taking the time to respond. Again, I am not trying to criticize SVLUG, I wanted to relay my experience with trying to find out about the InstallFest after hearing about it on CNET Radio today. The message that a regular gets from the site is different than what a first time visitor gets from the site because a regular will use fuzzy logic to fill in the blanks while the first time visitor will scratch his/her head. I don't mind checking out the site after you make some tweaks, and I will look forward to coming to the InstallFest. How is the parking situation at the InstallFest? Steve _____ -----Original Message----- From: star@starshine.org [mailto:star@starshine.org] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:21 PM To: Steve Cseh Cc: webmaster@svlug.org; marc_svlug@merlins.org Subject: Re: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 03:08:15PM -0800, Steve Cseh wrote: > I heard a CNET Radio announcement regarding an upcoming InstallFest. > The CNET announcement gave out the URL > http://www.svlug.org to get more information. > > I just went to that URL and found that the website is not updated. > > > * It looks like the SVLUG News frame on Home Page was last updated > June 27, 2002 The right hand frame is updated more often than the left hand; this is not actually a frame, but a server side include. It is rare for SVLUG members to submit full articles... which is what the left hand side contains... therefore, it's probably accurate that that side was last updated around June. > * I went to the Events link, then clicked on the InstallFest Link, > which re-directed me to > http://www.svlug.org/installfest/index.shtml Hmm, I don't think our installfest coordinator's been keeping that updated; most of the principles of installfesting are about the same, the site *is* Accent Technologies on Hartog, but that's been true for awhile so to call it "new" isn't terribly accurate anymore. I suppose I ought to update this; thanks for the clonk on the head, I need one of those every once in a while :) > * This page appears to have been last updated around the September > 2002 timeframe because of reference to "September 21" as next workshop. The coordinator doesn't always get around to updating this page, but we have the Third Saturday *every* month. > * This page also indicates that Accent Technologies is the new > site for the InstallFest and directs you to Map/Directions frame on same > page, which is blank, although clicking on it does direct you to Yahoo > Maps page mapping 1880 Hartog Drive in San Jose. Hotlink to a map broke. Sorry. I'll fix that too. > * There is no mention of the upcoming 3rd Saturday December > InstallFest It's every month whether we tweak or not. I hadn't realize this needed to be put on the spinner as it were. Maybe I can have one of our cronjobs set it up. > Because the website has outdated webpages, I am not sure what is > accurate. Installfest: 3rd Saturday /in December 2002 that'd be Dec 21/ Accent Technologies on Hartog, basically around the area of San Jose's Frys. 11 am to 4 pm. We don't usually have extra monitors; a fresh install generally takes more than 2 hours because mucking around in the menus takes a while. So bring your hardware, and if you arrive after 1 or 2 pm, be very sure what you want or you may not complete your install before we have to leave. > I am not complaining, just letting you know that the posted information > is confusing and not updated. I think I will rearrange the page a bit; the info there is really too long for one page at this point, and I hope that would help. Ok if I poke you to take a look at it after I've revamped it? > I really want to come to the InstallFest, but I don't have confidence in > the posted information on the website because it is not updated. > > Signed > Enthusiastic Linux Newbee There's a batch of 3 or 4 clued regulars in addition to the folks who come to get their systems set up; you should have a lot of fun at our installfests. Thanks for the note . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20021209/ece99992/attachment.html From scseh at corecess.com Mon Dec 9 19:47:01 2002 From: scseh at corecess.com (Steve Cseh) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <20021210032352.GC9263@starshine.org> Message-ID: <001601c29ffe$cf23e1a0$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> Heather I was only voicing my experience so that SVLUG was aware. Head conking is good sometimes. Ever heard of the retail saying, "For every person that complains or voices opinion, twenty others just walked away dissatisfied or disappointed." I actually feel that the number of disappointed people is higher in ratio in the real world. Look at how many people walk empty handed out of Fry's, Best Buy, or Circuit City. The purpose of your organization is a very good one and very noble. Tweaking of the website to catch as many first time users as possible is a good thing. The veterans know the drill by osmosis and therefore don't mind. Steve _____ -----Original Message----- From: star@starshine.org [mailto:star@starshine.org] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:24 PM To: Brian Chrisman Cc: Steve Cseh; webmaster@svlug.org; marc_svlug@merlins.org Subject: Re: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:09:43PM -0800, Brian Chrisman wrote: > Yes, that is the next installfest. > As for updatedness, we do what we can.. and hopefully > we'll do better.. :-) > > See ya there... > -Brian Yep, Brian's got the right of it. One way or another, we'll try to make the page a little better. Sorry about the update troubles :) (Brian's the 'fest coordinator, actually, so if there's any conflict among the web team, what he says goes on the page. For the record.) . | . Heather Stern | star@starshine.org --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - consulting@starshine.org ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training | (800) 938-4078 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20021209/74763847/attachment.htm From star at starshine.org Tue Dec 10 11:23:44 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] InstallFest Enthusiast In-Reply-To: <001101c29ffd$4ed2b810$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> References: <20021210032052.GB9263@starshine.org> <001101c29ffd$4ed2b810$6900a8c0@lpvaiosteve> Message-ID: <20021210192344.GB10128@starshine.org> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 07:36:16PM -0800, Steve Cseh wrote: > Heather > > Thanks for the taking the time to respond. No problem. > Again, I am not trying to criticize SVLUG, I wanted to relay my > experience with trying to find out about the InstallFest after hearing > about it on CNET Radio today. All commentary has been accepted in a positive light from the folks who have responded so far; I know that email often fails to convey emotion very well, so I figured I'd mention that. We really are thanking you for pointing out the inconsistency, the number of respondents is a sign of our enthusiasm about that. > The message that a regular gets from the site is different than what a > first time visitor gets from the site because a regular will use fuzzy > logic to fill in the blanks while the first time visitor will scratch > his/her head. Yes. Your new eyes are a help. > I don't mind checking out the site after you make some tweaks, and I > will look forward to coming to the InstallFest. Thanks. I'll let you know soon after Brian and I have adjusted things. > How is the parking situation at the InstallFest? It's pretty good. Accent Technologies is located in a small business park which has no other notable business going on at the same time. So there will be plenty of parking and should be no interference from loading trucks or any of the other things that sometimes affect parking in such places. If it were a weekday it'd feel a bit more limited, since there aren't a huge number of total spaces; it's certainly enough to support our 'fest though. > Steve . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From bill at wards.net Tue Dec 10 13:07:44 2002 From: bill at wards.net (William R Ward) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest info on web site Message-ID: <15862.22432.510029.949395@komodo.home.wards.net> The web page about installfests has a few problems: * It's no longer September; please update the date * The location change was over a year ago, I think it can be de-emphasized now * The map doesn't work * How about a link to Accent's web site? Thanks. --Bill. -- William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Consistency is not really a human trait. --Maude (from the film "Harold & Maude") From 76407.3411 at compuserve.com Tue Dec 10 13:32:35 2002 From: 76407.3411 at compuserve.com (76407.3411@compuserve.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] Really was that me? Message-ID: <028b56d33c7e$4562b1a0$3cd86bc4@lkflwu> You don't mean it :)).. Hi again I am so sorry for not replying sooner it seems that, one of my emails seemed to have gone astray, so I thought I would reply hoping that you would still remember who I am :)) If by some chance you have changed your email, I guess I would have lost an opportunity too. shame :( Anyway, I'm still willing and waiting here http://www.singlers.com/index_vip.html If you want to contact me through the site again you know where I am. Kisses Ali Member Registration http://www.singlers.com/index_vip.html 2622fjvH5-149rmpq1317rWGF7-770oanl3410OtQT1-688Rquq1624yiew9-880bzGD3454Guuh3-58l75 2668GvTL4-416uBoa5853ETjZ3-426fTAQ8170Hwjv3-397VXcS0808Yges8-667eRKO0424YcdJ3-5l74 From incubus at shell.izap.com Wed Dec 11 11:28:42 2002 From: incubus at shell.izap.com (Brian Chrisman) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] RCS access for installfest page Message-ID: <20021211192852Z403523-9677+6@shell.izap.com> svlug.svlug.org >co -l /home/httpd/html/wrkshop.shtml co: /home/httpd/html/RCS/wrkshop.shtml,v: Permission denied svlug.svlug.org > I think I'm doing this correctly. In which case I'm probably not in the correct group. Who's got access to put me in? thanks, Brian From incubus at shell.izap.com Wed Dec 11 11:30:21 2002 From: incubus at shell.izap.com (Brian Chrisman) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] Installfest info on web site In-Reply-To: <15862.22432.510029.949395@komodo.home.wards.net> "from William R Ward at Dec 10, 2002 01:07:44 pm" Message-ID: <20021211193022Z403523-10130+1@shell.izap.com> The installfest will be held at the usual place and time. Will update the page when we get a chance. -Brian > > The web page about installfests has a few problems: > > * It's no longer September; please update the date > * The location change was over a year ago, I think it can be > de-emphasized now > * The map doesn't work > * How about a link to Accent's web site? > > Thanks. > > --Bill. > > -- > William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Consistency is not really a human trait. > --Maude (from the film "Harold & Maude") > > _______________________________________________ > Silicon Valley Linux Users Group Officers > Unsubscribe at: > http://lists.svlug.org/mailman/listinfo/officers > From marc_news at merlins.org Wed Dec 11 16:08:30 2002 From: marc_news at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] RCS access for installfest page In-Reply-To: <20021211192852Z403523-9677+6@shell.izap.com> References: <20021211192852Z403523-9677+6@shell.izap.com> Message-ID: <20021212000830.GQ26506@merlins.org> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:28:42AM -0800, Brian Chrisman wrote: > svlug.svlug.org >co -l /home/httpd/html/wrkshop.shtml > co: /home/httpd/html/RCS/wrkshop.shtml,v: Permission denied > svlug.svlug.org > > > I think I'm doing this correctly. > In which case I'm probably not in the correct group. > Who's got access to put me in? I just added you to the webslave group (I didn't make the name up :-) Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at starshine.org Wed Dec 18 14:57:25 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] SVLUG January y/N? Message-ID: <20021218225725.GA13898@starshine.org> (With apologies to those of us who are on more than one teamlist.) A while back Marc asked if we should meet in January, and I don't recall seeing a clear answer. I'll be announcing upcoming events at BayLISA tomorrow night, so I'd like to know the status for certain, ASAP. If we are *not* meeting; I'll make sure Rick Moen tweaks the entry on BALE to mention that we're not, and mention the absence during my events announces at BayLISA. I do not know for certain who our Cisco liaison is; is that still Tracy? Anyways, they'd need to know they can stay home too and not worry about us, rather than valiantly make us able to have our meeting and then have nobody show. If we *are* meeting, I need to know who the speaker is, so I can tweak the website; it still says next meeting Dec 4. Also, of course, to announce at BayLISA. And, I need to know *for sure* what room or place; Cisco may have made space arangements for us, but they might be something besides building 9. Or if they're closed we need to pull a site out of our hat right away. I've got a hat, but it'll blow away like Frosty's if we don't say something. If Accent Technologies were bigger I'd suggest it as a first option; at least some SVLUG folk know where it is. Maybe we could just have an "only the afterdinner" meeting at some nice local restaurant, and have fun chatting. Tell me... can't post what I don't know... . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From marc_news at merlins.org Wed Dec 18 15:06:41 2002 From: marc_news at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] SVLUG January y/N? In-Reply-To: <20021218225725.GA13898@starshine.org> References: <20021218225725.GA13898@starshine.org> Message-ID: <20021218230641.GB4197@merlins.org> On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:57:25PM -0800, Heather Stern wrote: > (With apologies to those of us who are on more than one teamlist.) > > A while back Marc asked if we should meet in January, and I don't > recall seeing a clear answer. There was a clear answer, which is no. This was announced both at the last meeting and on the svlug list. You just happen to be on neither :-) Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at starshine.org Wed Dec 18 17:37:28 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [Officers] SVLUG January y/N? In-Reply-To: <20021218230641.GB4197@merlins.org> References: <20021218225725.GA13898@starshine.org> <20021218230641.GB4197@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20021219013728.GC14451@starshine.org> On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:06:41PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:57:25PM -0800, Heather Stern wrote: > > (With apologies to those of us who are on more than one teamlist.) > > > > A while back Marc asked if we should meet in January, and I don't > > recall seeing a clear answer. > > There was a clear answer, which is no. > This was announced both at the last meeting and on the svlug list. excellent! (I feel better now) > You just happen to be on neither :-) Well, okay, I tend to make it to the meetings, but don't always catch the announcement phase. It just depends on rides and what I'm up to; if it's "up to my neck in alligators" I don't go. I'll fix the website and clue Rick in. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at starshine.org Wed Dec 18 18:53:21 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] Hmm, access to the server... Message-ID: <20021219025321.GA14607@starshine.org> I'm not sure if this is a sign of something bad happening, or merely me being empty-headed about my own passwords again. I could hvve sworn that I'd gotten all my sites running on keys. If the www.svlug.org machine is supposed to be using ssh keys, then it isn't asking for the passphrase to mine; it's demanding a real password, and it's doing this for both ssh version 1 or 2 protocol. Stunned, I tried to enter what I thought would be my password, anyway. I appear to have forgotten the right one though. (Funny; I changed my *workstation* password recently; you'd think that would be the one I'd forget. But noooo.) I probably did something clever that I thought I'd remember, and once my fingers have forgotten it I have no idea myself. Embarrassing. Hope to hear from someone soon. Anyways if one of us who isn't so detained could drop the following into ~star/.ssh/authorized_keys I'd appreciate it. .... BEGIN public portion of Heather's usual ssh key .... ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAIEAr3Rjz5dxirUYpc0dVSPsKAIMHB/Ad0aOgE7NKS5vVIE5wfr53+WiHQuPStEvkVEl9lgnKlSP9kxnvPGV/avtNew0H7P77zviG7tEC6/XSr+sLx/zajRsQD7a6eNkFUzPsAAAGwc3IsiiGnyOm/S5JU7GuPOHfGDtu1l7KfUpe+k= star@betelgeuse .... end ................................................ Although arranging a spare moment when I can get access and restore the password to something I *can* actually remember would be a good idea. While I don't need it to do web work, if anybody wants me to do some work via sudo at some point I'd need it then. Sorry for the inconvenience. . | . Heather Stern | star@starshine.org --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - consulting@starshine.org ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training | (800) 938-4078 From star at starshine.org Thu Dec 19 01:44:24 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:43 2005 Subject: [web-team] 'fest page update #1 Message-ID: <20021219094424.GA15247@starshine.org> I've moved the mapping content out to its own page under /directions/accent.shtml and made some mild adjustments to the phrasing at the top of the installfest main page. I hope that it will both make it easier to maintain the directions (since they'll be seperate, it's not as huge a file to fight with) and a bit more readable for folks just trying to figure out where it is instead of worry about procedures... they can print out one page or the other, don't have to print both unless they need 'em. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at starshine.org Thu Dec 19 01:48:54 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:44 2005 Subject: [web-team] 'fest page update #2 (not done yet) Message-ID: <20021219094854.GB15247@starshine.org> The next part of the plan is to split the what-we-do-here part from the preparation details (bring this/don't expect that). I haven't decided whether to do it as another page split, or simply to lay out the obvious Do/ Don't into a table like the main index, then leave the rest in its normal flow below that. I'm open to thoughts from the webteam on this part. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` BALUG Webmaster From nbs at sonic.net Fri Dec 20 16:18:24 2002 From: nbs at sonic.net (Bill Kendrick) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:44 2005 Subject: [web-team] Revolution OS screening in January Message-ID: <20021220161824.A11996@sonic.net> Hi all! This is Bill Kendrick from the Linux Users' Group of Davis. LUGOD's 4-year anniversary is coming up on January 20th, and we're holding a party with a screening of the independent film "Revolution OS." I was wondering if you'd be willing to place a link on your respective user groups' webpages to help advertise this event! I've put up a 'press release' style page on our site that you can link to: http://www.lugod.org/revos/ Or, better yet, you'd like to link to it with something flashy, feel free to use this HTML:
REVOLUTION OS
REVOLUTION OS
Linux Users' Group of Davis
January 20, 2003
Thanks so much! :^) Happy holidata! -bill! pr@lugod.org http://www.lugod.org/ From marc_news at merlins.org Tue Dec 31 00:44:17 2002 From: marc_news at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:44 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest info on web site In-Reply-To: <15862.22432.510029.949395@komodo.home.wards.net> References: <15862.22432.510029.949395@komodo.home.wards.net> Message-ID: <20021231084416.GB3837@merlins.org> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:07:44PM -0800, William R Ward wrote: William R Ward > The web page about installfests has a few problems: > * It's no longer September; please update the date > * The location change was over a year ago, I think it can be > de-emphasized now > * The map doesn't work > * How about a link to Accent's web site? I'm cleaning my mail. I remember of another thread about the installfest page, but did anyone ever get back to Bill and answer his mail? Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From incubus at shell.izap.com Tue Dec 31 09:31:38 2002 From: incubus at shell.izap.com (Brian Chrisman) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:44 2005 Subject: [Officers] Re: [web-team] Installfest info on web site In-Reply-To: <20021231084416.GB3837@merlins.org> "from Marc MERLIN at Dec 31, 2002 09:44:17 am" Message-ID: <20021231173152Z404456-26597+1@shell.izap.com> Yeah.. multiple people did.... installfest page was also updated... > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:07:44PM -0800, William R Ward wrote: > William R Ward > > > The web page about installfests has a few problems: > > * It's no longer September; please update the date > > * The location change was over a year ago, I think it can be > > de-emphasized now > > * The map doesn't work > > * How about a link to Accent's web site? > > I'm cleaning my mail. > I remember of another thread about the installfest page, but did anyone > ever get back to Bill and answer his mail? > > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key > > _______________________________________________ > Silicon Valley Linux Users Group Officers > Unsubscribe at: > http://lists.svlug.org/mailman/listinfo/officers From marc_news at merlins.org Tue Dec 31 13:16:44 2002 From: marc_news at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:44 2005 Subject: [Officers] Re: [web-team] Installfest info on web site In-Reply-To: <20021231173152Z404456-26597+1@shell.izap.com> References: <20021231084416.GB3837@merlins.org> <20021231173152Z404456-26597+1@shell.izap.com> Message-ID: <20021231211643.GA3823@merlins.org> On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:31:38AM -0800, Brian Chrisman wrote: > Yeah.. multiple people did.... installfest page was also > updated... Sorry, I remembered about the other guy that everyone answered, but not him, not that my memory is worth much nowadays... Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at starshine.org Tue Dec 31 14:58:30 2002 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:44 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest info on web site In-Reply-To: <20021231084416.GB3837@merlins.org> References: <15862.22432.510029.949395@komodo.home.wards.net> <20021231084416.GB3837@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20021231225830.GH18772@starshine.org> On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:44:17AM +0100, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:07:44PM -0800, William R Ward wrote: > William R Ward > > > The web page about installfests has a few problems: > > * It's no longer September; please update the date > > * The location change was over a year ago, I think it can be > > de-emphasized now > > * The map doesn't work > > * How about a link to Accent's web site? > > I'm cleaning my mail. > I remember of another thread about the installfest page, but did anyone > ever get back to Bill and answer his mail? > > Marc Yes. We were able to satisfy him that the site's the same, every month now. The site has had a *minor* update to improve things, but the whisk broom hasn't cleaned off the real cobwebs yet. However Brian listed the next several meetings, so the dust bunnies are back under the couch again. Not sure Accent Technologies has a web site; we'll have to chase down its URL if it does. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator