From ikluft at thunder.sbay.org Sat Sep 1 20:27:02 2001 From: ikluft at thunder.sbay.org (Ian Kluft) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:27 2005 Subject: [web-team] secondary DNS Message-ID: I wanted to show some appreciation for SVLUG's and Marc's effort to clean up some of the flames from its mail list. I've decided I'm willing to start doing more as a volunteer for SVLUG again. I see that SVLUG is still crediting thunder.net for secondary DNS even though it's been a year and a half since I withdrew that service. So I guess we can start by reinstating that if you want. My nameserver is nimbus.thunder.net (209.142.3.6). It's located at InReach Internet in Stockton. From marc_news at valinux.com Sat Sep 1 21:06:02 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:27 2005 Subject: [web-team] secondary DNS In-Reply-To: ; from ikluft@thunder.sbay.org on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:41:26PM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010901210525.B26149@magic.merlins.org> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:41:26PM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote: > I wanted to show some appreciation for SVLUG's and Marc's effort to clean up > some of the flames from its mail list. I've decided I'm willing to start > doing more as a volunteer for SVLUG again. Thanks, much appreciated. I'd be happy to add you back to the officers list if you wish (you don't get stock options, but you get to make your title if you wish ;-D) > I see that SVLUG is still crediting thunder.net for secondary DNS even > though it's been a year and a half since I withdrew that service. So A lot of our web pages haven't been put up to date in a while :-) We used to have thor.sbay.org as a secondary until 2 weeks ago when Dave told us that he didn't have the resources to be secondary anymore. > I guess we can start by reinstating that if you want. My nameserver is > nimbus.thunder.net (209.142.3.6). It's located at InReach Internet > in Stockton. I'll make the change when I get back to VA, thanks. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From ikluft at thunder.sbay.org Sun Sep 2 00:00:02 2001 From: ikluft at thunder.sbay.org (Ian Kluft) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:27 2005 Subject: [web-team] secondary DNS In-Reply-To: <20010901210525.B26149@magic.merlins.org> from "Marc MERLIN" at Sep 01, 2001 09:05:26 PM Message-ID: >From: Marc MERLIN >On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:41:26PM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote: >> I wanted to show some appreciation for SVLUG's and Marc's effort to clean up >> some of the flames from its mail list. I've decided I'm willing to start >> doing more as a volunteer for SVLUG again. > >Thanks, much appreciated. I'd be happy to add you back to the officers list >if you wish (you don't get stock options, but you get to make your title if >you wish ;-D) Thanks for the offer but I'll politely decline to be an officer. Though I heard SVLUG stock options are worth more than most of last year's hot companies. :-) >> I see that SVLUG is still crediting thunder.net for secondary DNS even >> though it's been a year and a half since I withdrew that service. So > >A lot of our web pages haven't been put up to date in a while :-) I can help with some things where time permits. Something I've done for sbay.org and WVARA over the past couple years was write Perl code to keep the date of the next meeting always up to date. I could adapt that for SVLUG as well. It's been nice to know if we keep talking past midnight after a meeting that the web site is already up-to-date for the next meeting. I'm sure your Web Team will appreciate that. >We used to have thor.sbay.org as a secondary until 2 weeks ago when Dave >told us that he didn't have the resources to be secondary anymore. Hmmmm... I wasn't aware of that. I'll have to check with Dave to find out what's up. It's probably related to his recent move to a new residence since he was running that on his DSL line. His ISP might have cut off all servers after Code Red. >> I guess we can start by reinstating that if you want. My nameserver is >> nimbus.thunder.net (209.142.3.6). It's located at InReach Internet >> in Stockton. > >I'll make the change when I get back to VA, thanks. OK, I'll configure it for secondary DNS of svlug.org tonight. From marc_news at valinux.com Sun Sep 2 11:34:02 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [svlug] How to ask for help? In-Reply-To: <20010902003156.B6554@linwin.com>; from raffi@linwin.com on Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:31:56AM -0700 References: <20010901212405.C26149@magic.merlins.org> <20010902003156.B6554@linwin.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010902010335.00afe108@mail.telocity.com> <20010902003156.B6554@linwin.com> <200109020747.AAA28848@planet.fef.com> <20010827130421.93439.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> <20010901111640.A3067@linwin.com> <20010901212405.C26149@magic.merlins.org> <20010902003156.B6554@linwin.com> Message-ID: <20010902113328.J26149@magic.merlins.org> On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:31:56AM -0700, Rafael Skodlar wrote: > Marc, > > Did we get a single usable answer to the email in question? None. Why? > List members don't care because the person did not bother to do a simple > search on http://www.google.com/linux?q=dual+boot&num=10 (a link from > SVLUG page) with tons of answers. But that's not the main issue I want to > address. I know and I'm not discussing this. I'm saying don't flame the person. An answer along the lines of: "You have to ask the question right if you want quality help, in the meantime, try google" would have been enough. > What's bothering me is the ignorance and lack of respect for the mailing > list in general. To provide a good answer we need to know more about the > problem than a simple "help" on the Subject line and nondescriptive body > of the message. Agreed. Again, I'm not discussing your point, I'm discussing the flame. If you have to critisize half negatively, at least do it by private mail. > It's my belief that the quality of mailing list went down since some time > in 1999. We used to get more questions that made sense and together we > usually found the answer. Lately we have increased number of people that I remember quality of usenet in 1993, and your point is? :-) > That kind of threads become useless because they mostly keep the same, yes > "STUPID" unsearchable Subject line that provides no information about the > real subject. Who is ever going to look in there to find the answer to a > problem? Agreed, again, so make a short contructive critism. Your message wasn't that. Also, I hardly ever search archives by subject anymore, I use a search engine that's going to search the body of the message. > Finaly: To improve communication on the list it makes me wonder if it's a > good idea to have a web page which explains what is expected from people > before they ask questions. Something like "in order to get serious Linux > related help from the group please provide the following information: > - descriptive Subject line > - Hardware description including type of CPU, memory size, disk size and > type (ATA, SCSI), peripherals (CD ROM, DVD, floppy, USB), etc. > - Linux distribution in question (have it, or plan to acquire,...) > - other OS versions (installed or planing to install) > - actions taken before the problem > - actions taken to try to fix the problem (including search the net) > - whatever else is relevant to the question" Yes it is. Our web team has been meaning to restore a posting guidelines page for more than a year :-) Anyone who has time and wants to chip in is welcome to help. Email web-team@svlug.org > That is basic information needed to help solve the problem. Is that too > much to ask or is it ahead of time like: > > 2020-August: [ Thread ] [ Subject ] [ Author ] [ Date ] > 2003-May: [ Thread ] [ Subject ] [ Author ] [ Date ] [ Gzip'd Text 368 bytes ] Mailman's default is to trust the date provided by the poster's MUA. Sucks, agreed. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From eric_collins.rm at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 01:34:01 2001 From: eric_collins.rm at yahoo.com (Eric Collins) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website Message-ID: <000001c13453$8180db00$8c01a8c0@youme2.org> FYI... As of Friday Augest 31, 2001 Both the 1st Street and the Santa Clara Book stores are permanently closed and the books are only available online. I think what happen was that Barns & Nobels, whom own Fat Brain, bought out Computer Literacy and then closed there shops to save money. If you try to go to Computer literacy's Web Site you end up at Fat Brain.. and that is owned by Barns and Nobels.. Any ways.. bottom line.. we need to find a new place for the Linux Installation Festivals. An Avid Concerned Linux User :-) "In Fantasy we trust, for the Power of Thought Superseeds All things" quote from Da-kin, Elven Elder of the East _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From compunuts at telocity.com Mon Sep 3 03:34:01 2001 From: compunuts at telocity.com (Compunuts) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website In-Reply-To: <000001c13453$8180db00$8c01a8c0@youme2.org> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010903032646.00afe108@mail.telocity.com> This is the web master e mail address and it only be used for the problem/suggestion about SVLUG.ORG website. If you want to feedback to SVLUG group, then you need to join the mailing list, http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/ . Here is the quote from Marc, SVLUG President. At 12:11 AM 9/3/2001 -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: Brian Chrisman, our installfest god, is already aware of this and is looking at alternate locations. At 01:35 AM 9/3/2001 -0700, Eric Collins wrote: >FYI... As of Friday Augest 31, 2001 > >Both the 1st Street and the Santa Clara Book stores are permanently closed >and the books are only available online. > >I think what happen was that Barns & Nobels, whom own Fat Brain, bought out >Computer Literacy and then closed >there shops to save money. If you try to go to Computer literacy's Web Site >you end up at Fat Brain.. and that is owned by >Barns and Nobels.. > >Any ways.. bottom line.. we need to find a new place for the Linux >Installation Festivals. > > > > >An Avid Concerned Linux User :-) > >"In Fantasy we trust, for the Power of Thought Superseeds All things" > > quote from Da-kin, Elven Elder of the East ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux is not an operating system but it's a way of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 Stable Registered Linux user 129936 with Linux Counter ( http://counter.li.org ) ======================================= From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 5 16:48:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest pg updated, vaguely Message-ID: <200109052347.f85Nl0O10097@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Given that the meeting is tonight, I felt compelled to tweak the visible notes on the Installfest page even though we are not certain of where we're moving to. I promise a posting on svlug-announce as to new location, and express hope that we can post a map on the defunct building. I intend to go to this month's fest but can't promise to be the one who tacks up the map... Web Team: I have changed (docroot)/wrkshop.shtml to symlink into (docroot)/installfest/index.shtml, since people seem to be accessing either fairly indiscriminately. Please advise if any details need to be glommed from the past instance of wrkshop.shtml (which I have grabbed a side copy of, in addition to it being in RCS). See y'all tonight. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 5 17:06:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website In-Reply-To: <3B605676.977A5CEC@cisco.com> from Anand Kumar at "Jul 26, 2001 10:42:14 am" Message-ID: <200109060004.f8604oE10169@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > Hi, > > In your Web Page "http://www.svlug.org/404handler.shtml" : > > Gandhi is misspelt. Please correct it. > > Thanks. > > -- > \\Anand. Done. Possibly more amusing now too. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 5 17:26:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website: PNG fixes In-Reply-To: from "greg.roelofs@philips.com" at "Aug 1, 2001 05:47:38 pm" Message-ID: <200109060024.f860Ope10339@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Apologies for the delay. Your updated images have been posted - a copy of the previosu images has been kept, in case anybody reports that these cause other problems. Thanks bunches for your investigation of the problem though ... and even more for applying its solution! . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator > The Netscape 4.x PNG problem ("may have difficulty rendering this") on > your maps page (http://www.svlug.org/directions/cisco-9.shtml) is well- > known and has been documented for some time: > > http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngapbr.html#nn > > The fix is to remove the bKGD chunks from your (opaque) PNG images, or > not to add them in the first place. The simplest way to do the former > is with pngcrush, for which there's a link here: > > http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngapcv.html > > For example: > > pngcrush -d tmpdir -rem bkgd north-sj.png cisco-9-lrt-path-2001.png > mv tmpdir/*.png . > > Before: > > File: svlug.org-north-sj.png (25161 bytes) > chunk IHDR at offset 0x0000c, length 13 > 390 x 245 image, 24-bit RGB, non-interlaced > chunk gAMA at offset 0x00025, length 4: 0.45455 > chunk bKGD at offset 0x00035, length 6: red = 255 green = 255 blue = 255 > chunk pHYs at offset 0x00047, length 9: 2834x2834 pixels/meter (72 dpi) > chunk tIME at offset 0x0005c, length 7: 1 Jun 2001 17:23:29 GMT > chunk IDAT at offset 0x0006f, length 8192 > zlib: deflated, 32K window, maximum compression > chunk IDAT at offset 0x0207b, length 8192 > chunk IDAT at offset 0x04087, length 8192 > chunk IDAT at offset 0x06093, length 418 > chunk IEND at offset 0x06241, length 0 > No errors detected in svlug.org-north-sj.png (91.2% compression). > > After: > > File: svlug.org-north-sj-cr.png (17422 bytes) > chunk IHDR at offset 0x0000c, length 13 > 390 x 245 image, 24-bit RGB, non-interlaced > chunk gAMA at offset 0x00025, length 4: 0.45455 > chunk tIME at offset 0x00035, length 7: 1 Jun 2001 17:23:29 GMT > chunk pHYs at offset 0x00048, length 9: 2834x2834 pixels/meter (72 dpi) > chunk IDAT at offset 0x0005d, length 17309 > zlib: deflated, 32K window, maximum compression > chunk IEND at offset 0x04406, length 0 > No errors detected in svlug.org-north-sj-cr.png (93.9% compression). > > You'll note that this also reduces their sizes by about 25-30%. Of course, > converting them to palette mode makes them smaller still, although it re- > quires other tools (e.g., XV or pngtopnm/pnmtopng). And you can shave off > a little more also by using additional pngcrush -rem options to nuke the > pHYs and tIME chunks, which are not especially necessary: > > File: svlug.org-north-sj-8-cr.png (14394 bytes) > chunk IHDR at offset 0x0000c, length 13 > 390 x 245 image, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced > chunk gAMA at offset 0x00025, length 4: 0.45455 > chunk PLTE at offset 0x00035, length 96: 32 palette entries > chunk IDAT at offset 0x000a1, length 14213 > zlib: deflated, 32K window, maximum compression > chunk IEND at offset 0x03832, length 0 > No errors detected in svlug.org-north-sj-8-cr.png (84.9% compression). > > For your convenience, I'll send the fixed, 8-bit images in my next two > messages. (I'd append them to this one, but my ancient, cheesy-but-fully- > virus-proof mailer doesn't do MIME. Sorry.) > > Btw, if you have comments or questions, please respond to my other account > (newt@pobox.com). Many thanks. > > Regards, > -- > Greg Roelofs newt@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~newt/ > Newtware, PNG Group, Info-ZIP, Philips Semiconductors, ... > > > > _______________________________________________ > web-team mailing list > web-team@lists.svlug.org > http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/web-team > From compunuts at telocity.com Wed Sep 5 17:38:03 2001 From: compunuts at telocity.com (Compunuts) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] List FAQ is on the work.... Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010905173202.052c2e78@mail.telocity.com> I finally will take some time to develop an FAQ page for our mailing list since that had attracted many flames and stuff.... It's in the works with many pointers from long time regular mail list members and the archive pages that Marc had sent me sometime ago.... ( Okay Marc, I'm finally reading them that you had sent me and that I'd printed out and meaning to develop it every time I read it but was just couldn't get to it...) ... Anyway, I will post it once I have alpha sample of it.... Sorry it took so long to do this but life always (almost) sucks with other things..... Winston. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux is not an operating system but it's a way of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 Stable Registered Linux user 129936 with Linux Counter ( http://counter.li.org ) ======================================= From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 5 18:04:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] netiquette page :) Message-ID: <200109060102.f8612So10484@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Yeah I know, about bloody time, bloddy being the operative term... Anyways, the Lists button on the home page now points you at netiquette guidelines, the signup link at the bottom of that still sends you onward to Mailman. Gotta hit the highway now ! . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From svlug at tgeller.com Thu Sep 6 08:55:16 2001 From: svlug at tgeller.com (Tom Geller) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] Next month's meeting should be on the Web Message-ID: Sorry I couldn't be there last night -- I had an appointment that ran over. Hope that didn't cause any problems. :( I thought I'd notified the Web team with info about the October meeting, but don't see the it on the site. It follows. Best, --Tom ---begin--- Subject: SVLUG meeting Wed, 3 October, 7 pm.: OpenOffice.org We're pleased to announce the next meeting of SVLUG, this coming Wednesday. WHEN: Wednesday, 3 October, 7pm-9pm or so. WHO: OpenOffice.org Max Lanfranconi, Senior Product Manager for Openoffice.org (Sun Microsystems) ABOUT: Office productivity suite OpenOffice.org represents the largest Open Source project, with more than 7.5 million lines of code. Topics will include: * Infrastructure requirements and current implementation (Collab.net, Akamai, mailing list, projects, Issuezilla) * OpenOffice.org and StarOffice: two different approaches to an individual productivity suite for Linux * OpenOffice.org: a technical pitch (Rationale, History, data, architecture, tools needed and so forth) MORE ABOUT THE SPEAKER: Max Lanfranconi is Senior Product Manager for Openoffice.org at Sun Microsystems, responsible for providing technical expertise to the Sun and CollabNet teams as well as the OpenOffice.org community in building the Open Source office suite. Lanfranconi has held several positions at Sun since joining in 1998, including Senior Systems Engineer and Software Product Marketing Manager in Italy. Before joining Sun, Lanfranconi has been for 10 years with Banca Popolare di Bergamo, where he was involved in several R&D projects inside the IT department of the bank. WHERE: Cisco Building 9. The land of NUMBERS. The VINEYARDS conference center. The side we are on is the Silver Oak/Jordan conference rooms, where a large Cisco fountain is usually not turned on. Directions on how to get there are listed at: http://www.svlug.org/directions/cisco-9.shtml We've tried our very best for these directions to be accurate. If you have any improvements to make, please let our Web Team know! web-team@svlug.org NOTES: It's best if you arrive close to on time, as otherwise there may not be someone posted at the door to let you in. After the speakers end their presentation there is usually a Q&A session, time for job seekers and employers to meet, and often a few door prizes. When the meeting is over people are encouraged to chat a bit, but also to exit the building so Cisco can lock up. Don't worry, a lot of us go to dinner afterward so there's plenty of time to chat outdoors or offsite. We look forward to seeing you there! ---end--- -- Tom Geller * San Francisco * tgeller.com Speaker Coordinator, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group (svlug.org) Current: tgeller.com, spamcon.org, bandwidthpr.com Obsolete: suespammers.org, openppc.org, popcomputers.com From wali.m.nasrudin at lmco.com Thu Sep 6 09:01:01 2001 From: wali.m.nasrudin at lmco.com (Nasrudin, Wali M) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] Volunteer Message-ID: Hello, I would like to volunteer and contribute in any way. I am a new grad, and new to Linux as well. Please feel free to contact me. Thanx. Wali From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Sep 6 17:33:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] List FAQ is on the work.... In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010905173202.052c2e78@mail.telocity.com> from Compunuts at "Sep 5, 2001 05:36:29 pm" Message-ID: <200109070032.f870W9113813@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > I finally will take some time to develop an FAQ page for our mailing list > since that had attracted many flames and stuff.... It's in the works with > many pointers from long time regular mail list members and the archive > pages that Marc had sent me sometime ago.... ( Okay Marc, I'm finally > reading them that you had sent me and that I'd printed out and meaning to > develop it every time I read it but was just couldn't get to it...) ... > Anyway, I will post it once I have alpha sample of it.... > > Sorry it took so long to do this but life always (almost) sucks with other > things..... > > Winston. Put all the new parts in /maillists (except I put the netiquette page in /policies, so that it's easy to get people to point others at it). I announced it last night, in case you missed the meeting. Also let me know of any more points worthy of adding to the netiquette, Thanks bunches! . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Sep 6 19:00:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] locksmith dealt with :) Message-ID: <200109070158.f871wNR14124@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Just figured you'd all breath a sigh ... Um, and October's details are up. Somebody please let me know /instanter/ when we have a site for the Installfest selected. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From marc_news at valinux.com Fri Sep 7 11:30:02 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] secondary DNS In-Reply-To: ; from ikluft@thunder.sbay.org on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:41:26PM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010907112935.P8585@magic.merlins.org> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:41:26PM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote: > I guess we can start by reinstating that if you want. My nameserver is > nimbus.thunder.net (209.142.3.6). It's located at InReach Internet > in Stockton. I've updated the svlug.org whois record to add the name server (svlug.net is being transfered from NSI). ns1.valinux.com should allow 209.142.3.6 to pull both svlug.org and svlug.net Thanks Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From newt at pobox.com Sat Sep 8 15:58:02 2001 From: newt at pobox.com (Greg Roelofs) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] feedback from SVLUG website: PNG fixes Message-ID: <200109082257.f88MvcM30323@sonic.net> > Apologies for the delay. Your updated images have been posted - a copy > of the previosu images has been kept, in case anybody reports that these > cause other problems. They won't, but don't take my word for it. ;-) > Thanks bunches for your investigation of the problem though ... and even > more for applying its solution! You bet. Let me know if you want other GIFs on the page or site converted (or if you just want a Linux binary of gif2png and pngcrush). I'm kind of swamped at the moment, so I won't be poking around the site on my own again for a while. -- Greg Roelofs newt@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~newt/ Newtware, PNG Group, Info-ZIP, AlphaWorld Map, Philips Semiconductors, ... From compunuts at telocity.com Sat Sep 8 20:12:01 2001 From: compunuts at telocity.com (Compunuts) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] secondary DNS In-Reply-To: <20010907112935.P8585@magic.merlins.org> References: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010908200745.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com> SVLUG list FAQ is in its early development stage. The FAQ can be view by visiting http://www.visionglory.com/misc/listfaq.html . It's developing in real time ( I SSH into the server box and modify as I find time so whatever finish is up there.... ). If you have any suggestion for changes or any thing you wanted me to add, please let me know... Winston. From compunuts at telocity.com Sat Sep 8 20:29:01 2001 From: compunuts at telocity.com (Compunuts) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] Sorry about the wrong subject line In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010908200745.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com> References: <20010907112935.P8585@magic.merlins.org> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010908202539.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com> I was lazy and just did reply to a message and forgot to modify Subject line. Sorry.. At 08:11 PM 9/8/2001 -0700, Compunuts wrote: >SVLUG list FAQ is in its early development stage. The FAQ can be view by >visiting http://www.visionglory.com/misc/listfaq.html . It's developing in >real time ( I SSH into the server box and modify as I find time so >whatever finish is up there.... ). If you have any suggestion for changes >or any thing you wanted me to add, please let me know... > >Winston. From marc_news at valinux.com Mon Sep 10 13:08:02 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:28 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: FAQ In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010908200745.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com>; from compunuts@telocity.com on Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 08:11:01PM -0700 References: <20010907112935.P8585@magic.merlins.org> <5.0.2.1.2.20010908200745.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com> Message-ID: <20010910130654.C5600@magic.merlins.org> On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 08:11:01PM -0700, Compunuts wrote: > SVLUG list FAQ is in its early development stage. The FAQ can be view by > visiting http://www.visionglory.com/misc/listfaq.html . It's developing in Looks promising. It probably needs some merging with Heather's page (thanks heather, I was just able to get the page today, before when I clicked on the Email list item in the sidebar, it kept going to mailman) Heather, I'd add a few things to your page (along with what Winston has) - Do not send HTML to the list or other kinds of attachments - remove "* All job postings must be pre-approved by the SVLUG officers" - keep arguments off list (arguments != criticism) - whatever excerpts from http://lists.svlug.net/archives//svlug/2001-August/010557.html you feel would be useful (I'd have a few words about the possible consequences of breack of list rules) Thanks, Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 12 10:48:05 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] secondary DNS In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010908200745.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com> from Compunuts at "Sep 8, 2001 08:11:01 pm" Message-ID: <200109121746.f8CHktb24478@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > SVLUG list FAQ is in its early development stage. The FAQ can be view by > visiting http://www.visionglory.com/misc/listfaq.html . It's developing in > real time ( I SSH into the server box and modify as I find time so whatever > finish is up there.... ). If you have any suggestion for changes or any > thing you wanted me to add, please let me know... > > Winston. Well the message seemed off topic for the title, but otoh... I cannot reach the URL you gave. Either your ISP is suffering an outage or you need to give a URL you moved it to? . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 12 11:24:03 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: FAQ In-Reply-To: <20010910130654.C5600@magic.merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Sep 10, 2001 01:06:54 pm" Message-ID: <200109121823.f8CINFT24656@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 08:11:01PM -0700, Compunuts wrote: > > SVLUG list FAQ is in its early development stage. The FAQ can be view by > > visiting http://www.visionglory.com/misc/listfaq.html . It's developing in > > Looks promising. > It probably needs some merging with Heather's page (thanks heather, I was > just able to get the page today, before when I clicked on the Email list > item in the sidebar, it kept going to mailman) > > Heather, I'd add a few things to your page (along with what Winston has) > - Do not send HTML to the list or other kinds of attachments Was already there. Improved visibility. > - remove "* All job postings must be pre-approved by the SVLUG officers" Oops. tweaked to point at job policies. > - keep arguments off list (arguments != criticism) "flames" item split, made more clear, used the above snippet. > - whatever excerpts from > http://lists.svlug.net/archives//svlug/2001-August/010557.html > you feel would be useful > (I'd have a few words about the possible consequences of breack of list > rules) Method of enforcement I deliberately left off so far, since I'm hoping that posting netiquette (and the announce that such exists) would encourage people to read the netiquettes and self-impose them a bit. I see that I should probably post a note to the svlug@ list mentioning its existence, so folks who are only members by list-membership are clued into it too. > Thanks, > Marc Yep, you too. Hope you guys have put out the coals on that last one, smoldering causes *real* wildfires. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From compunuts at telocity.com Wed Sep 12 12:11:01 2001 From: compunuts at telocity.com (Compunuts) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] FAQ In-Reply-To: <200109121746.f8CHktb24478@betelgeuse.starshine.org> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010908200745.0295bcb0@mail.telocity.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010912115939.0297ff38@mail.telocity.com> Yeap I sent out the change of subject line right after it. :-) I think my ISP's DNS server is wack !! I will look into it and thanks. In the mean time, you can access from http://64.194.8.205/misc/listfaq.html . Thanks. Winston. At 10:46 AM 9/12/2001 -0700, Heather wrote: > > SVLUG list FAQ is in its early development stage. The FAQ can be view by > > visiting http://www.visionglory.com/misc/listfaq.html . It's developing in > > real time ( I SSH into the server box and modify as I find time so > whatever > > finish is up there.... ). If you have any suggestion for changes or any > > thing you wanted me to add, please let me know... > > > > Winston. > >Well the message seemed off topic for the title, but otoh... I cannot reach >the URL you gave. Either your ISP is suffering an outage or you need to >give a URL you moved it to? > > > . | . Heather Stern >--->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux is not an operating system but it's a way of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 Stable Registered Linux user 129936 with Linux Counter ( http://counter.li.org ) ======================================= From marc at merlins.org Wed Sep 12 15:54:02 2001 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: FAQ In-Reply-To: <200109121823.f8CINFT24656@betelgeuse.starshine.org>; from star@betelgeuse.starshine.org on Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:23:15AM -0700 References: <20010910130654.C5600@magic.merlins.org> <200109121823.f8CINFT24656@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20010912155341.Y5600@magic.merlins.org> On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:23:15AM -0700, Heather wrote: > > Heather, I'd add a few things to your page (along with what Winston has) > > - Do not send HTML to the list or other kinds of attachments > > Was already there. Improved visibility. (...) Thanks for all the fixes. Ok, so again I was not able to access your page anymore (I'd have mailman directly), and then I eventually realized that the Email lists tag doesn't work on the main page, but works on some other page like: http://www.svlug.org/events.shtml Winston, if you have things to add from your page, please pitch in. We also need a few simple instructions on how to unsubscribe when you lost your password. > Method of enforcement I deliberately left off so far, since I'm hoping that Fair enough. > I see that I should probably post a note to the svlug@ list mentioning its > existence, so folks who are only members by list-membership are clued into > it too. Good idea. Thanks, Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Sep 13 11:38:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: FAQ In-Reply-To: <20010912155341.Y5600@magic.merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Sep 12, 2001 03:53:42 pm" Message-ID: <200109131836.f8DIal803252@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:23:15AM -0700, Heather wrote: > > > Heather, I'd add a few things to your page (along with what Winston has) > > > - Do not send HTML to the list or other kinds of attachments > > > > Was already there. Improved visibility. > (...) > > Thanks for all the fixes. > > Ok, so again I was not able to access your page anymore (I'd have mailman > directly), and then I eventually realized that the Email lists tag doesn't > work on the main page, but works on some other page like: > http://www.svlug.org/events.shtml Ahhhh ha! Thanks. Fixed now. > Winston, if you have things to add from your page, please pitch in. > We also need a few simple instructions on how to unsubscribe when you lost > your password. Yes, definitely. > > Method of enforcement I deliberately left off so far, since I'm hoping that > > Fair enough. > > > I see that I should probably post a note to the svlug@ list mentioning its > > existence, so folks who are only members by list-membership are clued into > > it too. > > Good idea. Okay, I'll prepare a note. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Sep 13 12:48:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] FAQ In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010912115939.0297ff38@mail.telocity.com> from Compunuts at "Sep 12, 2001 12:01:33 pm" Message-ID: <200109131946.f8DJkOk03432@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > Yeap I sent out the change of subject line right after it. :-) > > I think my ISP's DNS server is wack !! I will look into it and thanks. In > the mean time, you can access from http://64.194.8.205/misc/listfaq.html . > > Thanks. > Winston. Thx. Okay, here's a start: // original top paragraph This FAQ should serve as the sample guideline for the list rules. If there's a question that you think should be on here, or if you want to add something in or correct something, send your request to SVLUG Webmaster and if you think some rules here are in need of change or modification, please send your comments to SVLUG Officers. // grammar cleanup This FAQ should serve as a guide to good conduct on the lists. If there's a question that you think should be on here, or if you want to add something in or correct something, send your request to the SVLUG Webmasters. If you think some rules here are in need of change or modification, please send your comments to SVLUG Officers. The sentence was a bit long, and since it was about sending to two different @dresses anyway I split them up entirely. And with luck this isn't a sample, these are the real rules, or if we aren't enforcing strongly, these are guidelines (but real ones). 0.1 [q.png] I see all these bracket things in lynx. [a.png] I recommend ALT tags on your graphics. You have places where "an SVLUG list" or "the SVLUG list" or "SVLUG lists" should be picked. I'd like to see notes which are the same for all lists first (e.g. 1. General Notes What is SVLUG? Where are SVLUG's lists hosted? SVLUG does not allow non-member postings to its lists. Why? terminology Signature Quoting Flames Stuff which is specific to a given list should be in their own section. These should have some standard subsections first: 2. svlug-announce at svlug dot org .1 Purpose of the list Announcement of SVLUG sponsored events and activities. .1 who is allowed to post Officers of SVLUG. .2 acceptable topics Only SVLUG events may be listed on SVLUG-announce. If SVLUG is working in connection with another group then SVLUG officers may choose to post it. .3 unacceptable topics. Do not post these here Events which may be of interest to our members, but are not SVLUG events, may be posted to the main list instead under your own account. (but don't spam!) .4 enforcement The list manager does not allow unapproved posts. Only SVLUG officers may approve them. .2 How to subscribe to this list, join, start getting mail. .1 as regular mail .2 digest .3 How to unsubscribe from the list, quit, stop getting mail. .1 temporarily .2 permanently .3 I forgot my password! ... and then stuff which is more tailored to that list only. .4 a good announcement should have these details .1 title of the event .2 location .3 date(s) .4 time range .5 directions, and/or a URL pointing at them .6 who to contact for more details .1 rsvp required? .2 URL of site for event if available And I'm thinking that Jobs ought to be its own section so people with that on their mind may go to it first. Newbies, hmm, not sure what to say to that. And I'm wondering if we should make some effort to merge this with the regular FAQ button. That is, perhaps the FAQ button should point to stuff about SVLUG (which happens to include its lists), and the subsection for Newbies point at the Linux-FAQ I have currently selected. From don_ask at hotmail.com Fri Sep 14 11:16:02 2001 From: don_ask at hotmail.com (Don Ask) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest Message-ID: Will there be an installfest tommarow? If not, I understand and will attend the next one. I need help, fine tuning a desk top system. Thanks Don Ask -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20010914/71c67f53/attachment.html From marc_news at valinux.com Fri Sep 14 12:05:06 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest In-Reply-To: ; from don_ask@hotmail.com on Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 11:16:44AM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010914120454.D5600@magic.merlins.org> On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 11:16:44AM -0700, Don Ask wrote: > Will there be an installfest tommarow? If not, I understand and will > attend the next one. Yes, there will be an installfest tomorrow, I got an email from Brian that confirmed that. The new site should be really closeby to the old one, so you should drive to computer literacy and look for instructions there Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From mliles at mliles.com Fri Sep 14 13:21:01 2001 From: mliles at mliles.com (Martha A. Liles) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [svlug] Re: [web-team] Installfest In-Reply-To: <20010914120454.D5600@magic.merlins.org> Message-ID: I am new so I have some questions. I assume that the old site is the Computer Literacy on first street, time 11-4. I am someone who needs help. I will bring my system. 1. Install new hard drive - which I just purchased- 20 GB- into a Dell Dension Pentium. 2. On it put a Linux distribution with LILO - I do not have the CDROM- and Free BSD - I have 4.3 - I have the CD-ROM and Sun solaris 8 - I have the CD-ROM. The machine had Solaris and Free BSD on it but it did not work properly. part of the problem was disk space and how to boot Free BSD with Solaris. I have played with several Solaris and Free BSD configurations. Still problems. I a purchased a big hard drive and want to put a Linux distribution with LILO on it. Right now, I am not being chossy what Linux distribution. I have had several sugestions. I would appreciate someone bring an appopriate Linux distribution. Then, I would boot the Solaris and Free BSD from Linux. There will be no MS on this machine. Currently, the machine only has Solaris on it. Is there anything that I should do before hand or bring with me. I am a Unix person loking for a Unix Sys Ad job. I am usd to the command line. I did not even know that ther was a x graphical Unix interface until last week. But, I may turn into a Linux person if it will get me a job. Thank you. Martha Martha A. Liles, M.L.S. Web Master mliles@mliles.com http://www.mliles.com From incubus at izap.com Fri Sep 14 15:14:01 2001 From: incubus at izap.com (Brian Chrisman) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] trying to update installfest location but getting stomped. Message-ID: <20010914221255Z405339-29856+14@izap.com> I just edited and checked in the wrkshop.shtml file with current information about the installfest. I verified that it was working, and now it's gone. If someone made changes recently, and you back them out. From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Sep 14 15:45:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] trying to update installfest location but getting stomped. In-Reply-To: <20010914221255Z405339-29856+14@izap.com> from Brian Chrisman at "Sep 14, 2001 03:12:53 pm" Message-ID: <200109142243.f8EMhN607890@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > I just edited and checked in the wrkshop.shtml file with > current information about the installfest. I verified > that it was working, and now it's gone. > If someone made changes recently, and you back them out. Please, change /installfest/index.shtml instead. I'm trying to get people weaned off of misspelling workshop... and everyone knows it's an installfest so this will lead people to be able to say "dub dub dub wvlug dot org slash installfest" We have been operating at the same time, isn't using RCS supposed to help with this? Maybe. But I bet you didn't see that it had been changed to a symlink. When I went in there was only my diff between wrkshop.old.shtml (kept for sanity) and installfest/index.shtml - noting the location is near the old one, goto the old site and look at posted directions when you get there. . | . Heather Stern | star@starshine.org --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - consulting@starshine.org ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training | (800) 938-4078 From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Sep 14 16:13:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] trying to update installfest location ... In-Reply-To: <200109142243.f8EMhN607890@betelgeuse.starshine.org> from Heather at "Sep 14, 2001 03:43:23 pm" Message-ID: <200109142312.f8ENCAV07987@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > > I just edited and checked in the wrkshop.shtml file with > > current information about the installfest. I verified > > that it was working, and now it's gone. > > If someone made changes recently, and you back them out. I didn't *actively* back anything out, but I do *check outs* when I make changes, and if that squished something you were editing while *not* checked out, it may have done it. > Please, change /installfest/index.shtml instead. I'm trying to > get people weaned off of misspelling workshop... > > and everyone knows it's an installfest so this will lead people > to be able to say "dub dub dub wvlug dot org slash installfest" spello, that's ess vee lug, of course. > We have been operating at the same time, isn't using RCS supposed > to help with this? Maybe. But I bet you didn't see that it had > been changed to a symlink. > > When I went in there was only my diff between wrkshop.old.shtml (kept > for sanity) and installfest/index.shtml - noting the location is near > the old one, goto the old site and look at posted directions when > you get there. . | . Heather Stern | star@starshine.org --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - consulting@starshine.org ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training | (800) 938-4078 From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Fri Sep 14 16:17:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] Installfest In-Reply-To: from Don Ask at "Sep 14, 2001 11:16:44 am" Message-ID: <200109142315.f8ENFJX08041@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > Will there be an installfest tommarow? >If not, I understand and will attend the next one. Yes. If you aren't on the lists and so didn't see the announce, go to the old Computer Literacy site, and follow posted signs to guide you to the new site. It's very near to there. > I need help, fine tuning a desk top system. Excellent. Don't forget to bring your monitor. > Thanks > Don Ask . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From cvs-watcher at svlug.org Sat Sep 15 12:01:03 2001 From: cvs-watcher at svlug.org (SVLUG CVS Locksmith) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] modified/unlocked RCS files Message-ID: [This message was automatically generated.] The following files were modified without being checked out: /var/www/html/wrkshop.shtml 21,25c21,23 < is very near the normal site. Go to CLBooks in San Jose as < described below, you will find further directions posted < there. < If you are uncomfortable with that, show up early, and you will < be able to meet the officers posting the sign :) --- > is very near the normal site. > The directions have been updated below to find our current host > site at Accent Technologies. 122,125c120,141 < From I-880 and I-680: <
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  • < Exit Montague Expressway westbound --- > Our host for the SVLUG installfest is >
    > Accent Technologies >
    > 1880 Hartog Drive >
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    > href="http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=1880+Hartog+Dr&csz=San+Jose,+CA&country=us&Get%A0Map=Get+Map"> src="http://m2.maps.yahoo.com/mqmapgend?MQMapGenRequest=FDR2dmwjDE%3bu70lr:HOEvq%3batx50b:%29uanh6yx%26%40%24:%26%40%24g%26w72%26w72%26MDUV%26FDBBD%7clzbg1a%24.902wurb:%26%40%24:%26%40%24x9%40" > width=400 height=400 alt="[Map to Accent Technologies]"> >

    > From I-880: >

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    • > Exit at Brokaw Road westbound (toward 101 or the SJ airport). > Caution for freeway widening and interchange reconstruction. > Caution for slow traffic: I-880 slows down to an average 9mph > in this narrow section between US101 and Montague Expwy, > even on weekends. 127c143 < Get in the left lane --- > Get in the right lane. 129,130c145,146 < The left lane turns into a turn-only lane for Trimble Road. Make a left at < Trimble. --- > Turn right at the first traffic signal at Junction. > (Away from Fry's Electronics.) 132,133c148 < Make a U-turn at North First Street (the street with light rail tracks in < the middle) --- > Take the first right at Hartog Dr. 137c152 < Computer Literacy Bookshop is in the closest corner of the building --- > Accent Technologies is on the left at 1880. 143,146c158 < Exit at Trimble Road <
    • < Just after North First Street (the street with light rail tracks in the middle), < turn right in the first driveway --- > Exit at Brokaw Road eastbound (away from the SJ airport.) 148,157c160,161 < Computer Literacy Bookshop is in the closest corner of the building <
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    < By VTA Light Rail from Downtown < and South San Jose:
    < (Note: If you want to come from a light rail station beyond Tasman on < the north end of the line, see VTA's < < light rail bus bridge announcement.) <

      --- > Just after the railroad crossing (before you get to I-880), > turn left at Junction. (Turn left when Fry's is on the right.) 159c163 < Take light rail to the Component station --- > Take the first right at Hartog Dr. 161c165 < Walk a block north on N First Street toward Trimble --- > Turn right in the first driveway 163,164c167 < Computer Literacy Bookshop is in the office complex on the right before the < corner with Trimble --- > Accent Technologies is on the left at 1880. 167,172c170 < By VTA Light Rail from North < San Jose and Santa Clara:
      < (Note: If you want to come from a light rail station beyond Tasman on < the north end of the line, see VTA's < < light rail bus bridge announcement.) --- > By VTA Light Rail:
      173a172,173 >
    • Note: There is no VTA bus service here on Saturdays. It's > nearly a 1-mile walk from light rail. 175c175 < Take the temporary light rail "bus bridge" to the Bonaventura Station --- > Take light rail to the Karina Court station. 177c177,178 < Walk a block south on N First Street and cross Trimble --- > Walk a block north on N First Street to Brokaw > (toward and past the McDonald's) on the left side. 179,180c180,188 < Computer Literacy Bookshop is in the office complex on the southeast corner < of the intersection of Trimble and N First Street. --- > Turn left on Brokaw and walk almost a mile to Junction. >
    • > Cross Junction and turn left. >
    • > The office complex on your right is where the Installfest is held. > Follow the parking lot to the right around the corner along Hartog Dr. >
    • > Accent Technologies is at 1880 Hartog, at the end of the building on > the right. 182,184d189 <

      < For bus routes and schedules, see the < VTA bus schedule page. 186,188d190 <

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      These changes will be *LOST* the next time anyone checks out the file! If the culprit is not available to fix it, be careful not to lose any changes to the file. Use these commands to fix it: cd [directory where file is] cp filename Zfilename co -l filename cp Zfilename filename && rm Zfilename ci -u filename (substitute the real filename for "filename".) From ikluft at thunder.sbay.org Sun Sep 16 01:54:01 2001 From: ikluft at thunder.sbay.org (Ian Kluft) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] modified/unlocked RCS files In-Reply-To: <20010915123314.E30415@magic.merlins.org> from "Marc MERLIN" at Sep 15, 2001 12:33:14 PM Message-ID: It looks like the RCS alarm doesn't handle symlinks. I did check it out and check it in with RCS but there is a symlink pointing at them. This is a really odd way to thank me for updating the Installfest directions before the Installfest. From marc_news at valinux.com Sun Sep 16 08:17:01 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] modified/unlocked RCS files In-Reply-To: ; from ikluft@thunder.sbay.org on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:46:57AM -0700 References: <20010915123314.E30415@magic.merlins.org> Message-ID: <20010916081607.C13145@magic.merlins.org> On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:46:57AM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote: > It looks like the RCS alarm doesn't handle symlinks. I did check it out > and check it in with RCS but there is a symlink pointing at them. I see. I just forwarded this as I thought you weren't receiving those mails. BTW, changing diff to diff -u would probably bee a good idea too > This is a really odd way to thank me for updating the Installfest directions > before the Installfest. Agreed, apologies. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Mon Sep 17 17:19:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] RCS beat over head with stick. Message-ID: <200109180017.f8I0HDa04823@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Anybody more familiar than me about dealing with RCS when the file has been replaced with a symlink? ( /wrkshop.shtml -> installfest/index.shtml ) I went and tweaked it so it should count as checked in, but I'm suspecting I'll need to replace with an auto-redirect page instead, or it will continue to be bitchy anytime we improve the real installfest page. ( /installfest/index.shtml ) Comments welcome . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Mon Sep 17 17:57:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:29 2005 Subject: [web-team] modified/unlocked RCS files In-Reply-To: from Ian Kluft at "Sep 16, 2001 01:46:57 am" Message-ID: <200109180054.f8I0sGh04986@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > It looks like the RCS alarm doesn't handle symlinks. I did check it out > and check it in with RCS but there is a symlink pointing at them. > > This is a really odd way to thank me for updating the Installfest directions > before the Installfest. I checked in and out the symlink ITSELF and hopefully that will shut up the current alarm. Honest, I didn't know that RCS would be such a dope about it, and due to other goings-on, I hadn't been in mail all weekend to see it going bonkers! I'll change it to a redirect gadget. All webteam members warned to avoid symlinks. Siiiiiiiigh . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 19 18:06:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [svlug] SVLUG Netiquette Policy In-Reply-To: <20010919173130.Q9882@magic.merlins.org> from Marc MERLIN at "Sep 19, 2001 05:31:31 pm" Message-ID: <200109200104.f8K14oB15501@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > [unless people on the list have comments, this should probably be followed > up on web-team@svlug.org] Done. > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:27:15PM -0700, Heather wrote: >>> - Ask yourself the following questions: should this be a private reply (i.e. >>> sent to the author only)? Does the majority of the list really need to >>> receive what I'm going to send? > > > > You took out the part about the tomatoes? I'm getting my tomatoes nice and > > mushy to toss... > > Err, I don't remember seeing anything about tomatoes or taking it out :-) [snip] > I'm not sure what you're refering to, but it wasn't there to start with. > Feel free to add though. Ah, found it, that part is at the bottom. "Ask yourself the following..." should be down there too. The major section is entitled "Be Polite". Perhaps I should name it "When To Take It Off The List" > > call this subsection BE CAREFUL WHEN QUOTING. I'd go change it right now > > but root has the file locked. > > Fixed (I probably screwed up and did a co -l instead of co by mistake) > > > And honestly, I think the particular Outlook trait you are noting is not > > a broken-ness ... some other mailers do that ... the "broken" part is the > > dork at the keyboard who leaves it like that. It's just as annoying if > > the Huge Quoted Block is above or below your comment. > > Mmmh, since outlook doesn't quote the message (i.e. add '> ' and indent), > I'm not sure how you can easily quote and interleave answers. By marking it up: Marc quoth: Mmmh, since outlook doesn't quote the message (i.e. add '> ' and indent), I'm not sure how you can easily quote and interleave answers. And possibly indenting your own reply. or by quoting "AOL style": <<< whatever inane comment someone had about the latest instance of Mozilla and cookies bla bla bla but only when I go shppping bla bla bla. >>> You know there is this great cookie eating program I use... etc. But I'll add, that the given fragment doesn't express the method Outlook is broken in which you described now. So it merely looks ad hominem, which isn't good netiquette even tho Outlook probably deserves it. >>> - Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or fewer. This includes the -- >>> separator line, allowing for up to four lines of content. >> >> Unless somebody prefers a different length, this is fine. > > Well, you wrote that, so I'm glad you agree with it ;-) . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From marc_news at valinux.com Wed Sep 19 18:24:01 2001 From: marc_news at valinux.com (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: [svlug] SVLUG Netiquette Policy In-Reply-To: <200109200104.f8K14oB15501@betelgeuse.starshine.org>; from star@betelgeuse.starshine.org on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:04:50PM -0700 References: <20010919173130.Q9882@magic.merlins.org> <200109200104.f8K14oB15501@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <20010919182307.R9882@magic.merlins.org> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:04:50PM -0700, Heather wrote: > Ah, found it, that part is at the bottom. "Ask yourself the following..." > should be down there too. The major section is entitled "Be Polite". > Perhaps I should name it "When To Take It Off The List" Sure, sounds fine. > > Mmmh, since outlook doesn't quote the message (i.e. add '> ' and indent), > > I'm not sure how you can easily quote and interleave answers. > > By marking it up: > > Marc quoth: > Mmmh, since outlook doesn't quote the message (i.e. add '> ' and indent), > I'm not sure how you can easily quote and interleave answers. > > > And possibly indenting your own reply. Ah, I see. Yeah, I suppose. I'm not convinced it's any good compared to the agreed on way that everyone else quotes, but given the broken tool, it's an ok way to deal with it. > But I'll add, that the given fragment doesn't express the method Outlook is > broken in which you described now. So it merely looks ad hominem, which > isn't good netiquette even tho Outlook probably deserves it. Fair enough. Feel free to change. > > Well, you wrote that, so I'm glad you agree with it ;-) > > :-) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f@merlins.org for PGP key From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Wed Sep 19 19:15:02 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Re: Netiquette Message-ID: <200109200213.f8K2DDc15653@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Okay, I've overhauled the page a bit. Everybody take a look and chime in. I think I've tried to nail all my own pet peeves without singling out mailers or specific people... and given some ways for people to decide if their mail is borderline. If anything needs toning down, let me know. If I missed any good Peeves, let me know :D . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From mario at webacre.com Mon Sep 24 14:17:02 2001 From: mario at webacre.com (Mario Rosario) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Web Design Coordinator Message-ID: <022f01c1453e$0fcaea90$6d00a8c0@ivy> Hi, I'm a Web Application Developer/Designer interested in volunteering for the Web Design Coordinator advertised at your website, I'm assuming this is available. I would like to learn more about this volunteer position. Specifically, I would like to know more about my time and duties necessary for this role. I may be available to volunteer for some installfests as well. Feel free to contact me at mario@webacre.com. Thanks Mario Rosario -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/web-team/attachments/20010924/1d749fb2/attachment.htm From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Mon Sep 24 16:04:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Web Design Coordinator In-Reply-To: <022f01c1453e$0fcaea90$6d00a8c0@ivy> from Mario Rosario at "Sep 24, 2001 02:15:39 pm" Message-ID: <200109242303.f8ON37P10294@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Web Team Members: you are encouraged to comment, with or without copying Mario, as you prefer. > Hi, > > I'm a Web Application Developer/Designer interested in volunteering for > the Web Design Coordinator advertised at your website, I'm assuming this > is available. I would like to learn more about this volunteer position. Amy Abascal set our style in place a long while back. She is still with the group as a whole, but busy with many other things. Our design actually isn't too bad*, but the web team can use a few good hands. We are not seeking a major re-desigm actively, so the job of Design Coordinator would be maintenance (things like adding new nav buttons), or developing a setup for new sections++ that goes well with current style. We have a bit more need for the Scripts Coordinator - since the scripts have been sort of "rolling along on their own" since Lisa had her baby. * Pretty good, actually, since we occasionally get requests to copy it :) ++ for example we're working on an FAQ of our own, beyond the "What's Linux" type stuff. We used to have one, but it was more of a history lesson than current A's for frequent Q's. > Specifically, I would like to know more about my time and duties > necessary for this role. As one among a handful of people in the web team, we would hope that the load wouldn't be allowed to be too much. We all try to share, but each of us takes on general responsibility for some specific things so that they cannot get too far behind. We hope ;> We use RCS to check in and check out files. The machine is accessed by ssh and runs Linux. So you *must* be already comfortable at a shell prompt. You would need to be compatible with the personalities of, and approved by, the current members of the web team. This is probably the hardest part. We are all good people but we like to be sure of folks we add to the team. > I may be available to volunteer for some installfests as well. You'd certainly be welcome to join us there - no special checkin required, just show up :D > Feel free to contact me at mario@webacre.com. > > Thanks > Mario Rosario Thanks for your interest, and, if you're liking what you see, feel free to meet with me after the SVLUG meeting. I'm the one who announces BALUG, BayLISA and the USS Augusta Ada. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From compunuts at telocity.com Mon Sep 24 22:20:01 2001 From: compunuts at telocity.com (Compunuts) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Web Design Coordinator In-Reply-To: <200109242303.f8ON37P10294@betelgeuse.starshine.org> References: <022f01c1453e$0fcaea90$6d00a8c0@ivy> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010924221358.00af8d78@mail.telocity.com> At 04:03 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Heather wrote: >Web Team Members: you are encouraged to comment, with or without copying > Mario, as you prefer. I'm all for getting extra help. Since we only have a couple of people on the web team besides Marc, we can also use some help too. BUT we need to see whether that person is really worth taking the headache too so Marc should meet that person on the next meeting, a couple of weeks only away, and decide whether he wanted to add to the staff... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux is not an operating system but it's a way of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 Stable Registered Linux user 129936 with Linux Counter ( http://counter.li.org ) ======================================= From mario at webacre.com Tue Sep 25 14:21:01 2001 From: mario at webacre.com (Mario Rosario) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Web Design Coordinator References: <200109242303.f8ON37P10294@betelgeuse.starshine.org> Message-ID: <025201c14607$cde92a90$6d00a8c0@ivy> Hi Heather, :) Sorry Amy, I mis-read the website. I think the Scripts Coordinator role would be more appropriate for me if the team will work with me. I'm looking to work on my coordination skills and meet others with similar interests. I'm not a kernel developer but I can get around Linux. I will most likely make it to the next SVLUG meeting and the Installfest and look forward to speaking to you. Best Regards Mario Rosario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather" To: "Mario Rosario" Cc: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [web-team] Web Design Coordinator > Web Team Members: you are encouraged to comment, with or without copying > Mario, as you prefer. > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a Web Application Developer/Designer interested in volunteering for > > the Web Design Coordinator advertised at your website, I'm assuming this > > is available. I would like to learn more about this volunteer position. > > Amy Abascal set our style in place a long while back. She is still with > the group as a whole, but busy with many other things. > > Our design actually isn't too bad*, but the web team can use a few good hands. > We are not seeking a major re-desigm actively, so the job of Design Coordinator > would be maintenance (things like adding new nav buttons), or developing a > setup for new sections++ that goes well with current style. > > We have a bit more need for the Scripts Coordinator - since the scripts > have been sort of "rolling along on their own" since Lisa had her baby. > > * Pretty good, actually, since we occasionally get requests to copy it :) > ++ for example we're working on an FAQ of our own, beyond the "What's Linux" > type stuff. We used to have one, but it was more of a history lesson than > current A's for frequent Q's. > > > Specifically, I would like to know more about my time and duties > > necessary for this role. > > As one among a handful of people in the web team, we would hope that the > load wouldn't be allowed to be too much. We all try to share, but each of > us takes on general responsibility for some specific things so that they > cannot get too far behind. We hope ;> > > We use RCS to check in and check out files. > > The machine is accessed by ssh and runs Linux. So you *must* be already > comfortable at a shell prompt. > > You would need to be compatible with the personalities of, and approved by, > the current members of the web team. This is probably the hardest part. > We are all good people but we like to be sure of folks we add to the team. > > > I may be available to volunteer for some installfests as well. > > You'd certainly be welcome to join us there - no special checkin required, > just show up :D > > > Feel free to contact me at mario@webacre.com. > > > > Thanks > > Mario Rosario > > Thanks for your interest, and, if you're liking what you see, feel free to > meet with me after the SVLUG meeting. I'm the one who announces BALUG, > BayLISA and the USS Augusta Ada. > > . | . Heather Stern > --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services > ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator From star at betelgeuse.starshine.org Thu Sep 27 15:45:01 2001 From: star at betelgeuse.starshine.org (Heather) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:30 2005 Subject: [web-team] Web Design Coordinator In-Reply-To: <025201c14607$cde92a90$6d00a8c0@ivy> from Mario Rosario at "Sep 25, 2001 02:19:47 pm" Message-ID: <200109272243.f8RMhNK10509@betelgeuse.starshine.org> > Hi Heather, > > :) Sorry Amy, I mis-read the website. > > I think the Scripts Coordinator role would be more appropriate for me if the > team will work with me. I'm looking to work on my coordination skills and > meet others with similar interests. I'm not a kernel developer but I can get > around Linux. I will most likely make it to the next SVLUG meeting and the > Installfest and look forward to speaking to you. > > Best Regards > Mario Rosario Excellent. Then we'll see you next Wednesday. . | . Heather Stern --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services ' | ` SVLUG Web Content Coordinator