<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Robert, Ken, and Michael discussed some ways to run Windows programs -- either using wine or in a virtual machine. I use kvm (qemu) these days, after trying vmplayer (a few years), and virtbox (just to run it once). Performance was pretty good since the native instruction set is used -- as good as some of my older laptops. Terminal setup is pretty trivial:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Create a virtual disk (myvirt.img) of 19GB size:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">qemu-img create myvirt.img -f qcow2 19G</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Install an ISO there:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">kvm -m 4096 -cdrom /usr/local/vm/lucid/lucid-desktop.iso -boot d myvirt.img</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Run the vm:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">kvm -m 4096 myvirt.img</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Or more realistically:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">kvm -smp cores=4,threads=2 -cpu host -m 4096 -vga virtio -usb myvirt.img</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Michael posted a general script for VM creation, which covers many more possible situations.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I do use virt-manger to list/run my vms for the most part.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I use Rufus to create the Windows ISO, skipping the checks that prevent the install from working on older machines. That ISO actually worked on older machines (Win 11 24h2) directly as well as in a VM.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">wine is pretty good these days for running old Windows programs, but check at <a href="http://winehq.org">winehq.org</a> for reports of how a specific program runs. All my Steam windows games actually run on Ubuntu's steam beta client with the Proton-experimental (wine) compatibility option enabled. Well, all except the aircraft simulator, DCS World, which I never got running under Windows either. I discovered a whole maze of steam installs, with every missing library actually present somewhere, so maybe a clean steam install will be in my future.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I'm still trying to get my laptop with a broken screen to at least display the login to the external monitor. Seems like it works on another machine, but not on the laptop with the broken screen. ;^( Simply copying the (properly set up in settings/display) ~/.config/monitors.xml file to ~gdm/.config should be all it takes, but for some reason, looks like I have another (blank) screen (to left of desired one) showing on the external monitor (does have the cursor). Typing the login sequence does get me in, so it's just annoying at this point.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Ken</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 10:52 AM Bobbie Sellers <<a href="mailto:bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com">bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p><font size="4">I left about 1220 because I was tired and hungry.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">I can add nothing to the brief summary by Aaron.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">But if you want a desktop that looks like the
MacOS then</font></p>
<p><font size="4">you might try Emmasbuntu. It used to have a
look-a-like</font></p>
<p><font size="4">desktop but I don't remembe on what it was based.</font></p>
<p><font size="4"> Good luck.</font></p>
<p><font size="4"> Bobbie</font></p>
<div>On 9/11/25 07:53, <a href="mailto:aaronco36@sdf.org" target="_blank">aaronco36@sdf.org</a>
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<pre>I didn't see meeting notes from last sunday. Did I miss them or were
they never sent?
Thanks
John
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<pre>Hi John,
As has unfortunately seemed to be fairly typical over at least the last
year, again arrived at the online meeting a bit late, so missed the
initial discussion :-\ .
Robert, Ken S., Michael P., and maybe another person were already online
and discussing things -- don't recall what they were.
Ken?
Bobbie S. joined up later and presented this....
Quoting Bobbie :
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Subject: [Linux Magazine Preview] Issue 299 / October 2025
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 17:00:21 +0000
From: Linux Magazine Preview <a href="mailto:info@linux-magazine.com" target="_blank"><info@linux-magazine.com></a>
Reply-To: Linux Magazine Preview <a href="mailto:info@linux-magazine.com" target="_blank"><info@linux-magazine.com></a>
To: <a href="mailto:bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com" target="_blank">bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com</a>
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(<a href="https://mailchi.mp/linux-magazine.com/linux-magazine-preview-issue-299-october-2025?e=b51ecaac22" target="_blank">https://mailchi.mp/linux-magazine.com/linux-magazine-preview-issue-299-october-2025?e=b51ecaac22</a>)
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Perhaps Bobbie could better fill us in on other discussion that didn't
take notes on?
Own project was to "mimic the native MacOS X 11.6 El Capitan installed on
an old Apple MacBook Air laptop for an amd64-based Dell laptop" as per
<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2025q3/016146.html" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2025q3/016146.html</a>
Between Pop!_OS with its COSMIC desktop vs. elementary OS with its
Pantheon desktop, was much more impressed with the MacOS X look-and-feel
of elementary OS. Seems too that elementary OS with its base of Ubuntu
24.04.3 LTS (Noble Numbat) is more recent than Pop!_OS with its base of
Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish).
Current mini-project follow-thru is to attempt as much as possible to
mimic MacOS X's look-and-feel using the XFCE desktop on various
non-Ubuntu-based distros.
Hope that helps.
-Aaron
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