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    <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">probably you're right,
      but i think the <br>
      owner  alex  may reveal a startup problem. <br>
      somewhere in the pulseaudio web pages <br>
      (one of the two links I sent) there's <br>
      mention that pulseaudio has its own <br>
      group and, I believe, owner. Group and <br>
      owner permission mismatches make up a <br>
      lot of problems. You might check your <br>
      system log files to see if there are <br>
      complaints about pulseaudio start ups. <br>
      <br>
    </font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/3/20 6:32 PM, Alex Kleider wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:fa6e4fecac5f71c423ba61af95a2b0e4@sonic.net">On
      2020-05-03 18:19, jim wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">note in your output of ps aux  that the
        owner
        <br>
        of  pulseaudio --daemon=no  is  alex  and not
        <br>
        gdm.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      In the spirit of staying 'lean' I used xdm rather than gdm.
      <br>
      I was under the impression that it is gnome that leaves the large
      foot print.
      <br>
      Am I wrong?
      <br>
      a
      <br>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <br>
        <br>
        here's my /etc/pulse/client.conf
        <br>
        <br>
        root@Ultralap-6440:~# cat /etc/pulse/client.conf
        <br>
        # This file is part of PulseAudio.
        <br>
        #
        <br>
        # PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
        modify
        <br>
        # it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as
        published by
        <br>
        # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License,
        or
        <br>
        # (at your option) any later version.
        <br>
        #
        <br>
        # PulseAudio is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
        but
        <br>
        # WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
        <br>
        # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
        GNU
        <br>
        # General Public License for more details.
        <br>
        #
        <br>
        # You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General
        Public License
        <br>
        # along with PulseAudio; if not, see
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/"><http://www.gnu.org/licenses/></a>.
        <br>
        <br>
        ## Configuration file for PulseAudio clients. See
        pulse-client.conf(5) for
        <br>
        ## more information. Default values are commented out.  Use
        either ; or # for
        <br>
        ## commenting.
        <br>
        <br>
        ; default-sink =
        <br>
        ; default-source =
        <br>
        ; default-server =
        <br>
        ; default-dbus-server =
        <br>
        <br>
        ; autospawn = yes
        <br>
        ; daemon-binary = /usr/bin/pulseaudio
        <br>
        ; extra-arguments = --log-target=syslog
        <br>
        <br>
        ; cookie-file =
        <br>
        <br>
        ; enable-shm = yes
        <br>
        ; shm-size-bytes = 0 # setting this 0 will use the
        system-default,
        <br>
        usually 64 MiB
        <br>
        <br>
        ; auto-connect-localhost = no
        <br>
        ; auto-connect-display = no
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        heres my /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
        <br>
        <br>
        root@Ultralap-6440:~# cat /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
        <br>
        # This file is part of PulseAudio.
        <br>
        #
        <br>
        # PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
        modify
        <br>
        # it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as
        published by
        <br>
        # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License,
        or
        <br>
        # (at your option) any later version.
        <br>
        #
        <br>
        # PulseAudio is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
        but
        <br>
        # WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
        <br>
        # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
        GNU
        <br>
        # General Public License for more details.
        <br>
        #
        <br>
        # You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General
        Public License
        <br>
        # along with PulseAudio; if not, see
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/"><http://www.gnu.org/licenses/></a>.
        <br>
        <br>
        ## Configuration file for the PulseAudio daemon. See
        pulse-daemon.conf(5) for
        <br>
        ## more information. Default values are commented out.  Use
        either ; or # for
        <br>
        ## commenting.
        <br>
        <br>
        ; daemonize = no
        <br>
        ; fail = yes
        <br>
        ; allow-module-loading = yes
        <br>
        ; allow-exit = yes
        <br>
        ; use-pid-file = yes
        <br>
        ; system-instance = no
        <br>
        ; local-server-type = user
        <br>
        ; enable-shm = yes
        <br>
        ; enable-memfd = yes
        <br>
        ; shm-size-bytes = 0 # setting this 0 will use the
        system-default,
        <br>
        usually 64 MiB
        <br>
        ; lock-memory = no
        <br>
        ; cpu-limit = no
        <br>
        <br>
        ; high-priority = yes
        <br>
        ; nice-level = -11
        <br>
        <br>
        ; realtime-scheduling = yes
        <br>
        ; realtime-priority = 5
        <br>
        <br>
        ; exit-idle-time = 20
        <br>
        ; scache-idle-time = 20
        <br>
        <br>
        ; dl-search-path = (depends on architecture)
        <br>
        <br>
        ; load-default-script-file = yes
        <br>
        ; default-script-file = /etc/pulse/default.pa
        <br>
        <br>
        ; log-target = auto
        <br>
        ; log-level = notice
        <br>
        ; log-meta = no
        <br>
        ; log-time = no
        <br>
        ; log-backtrace = 0
        <br>
        <br>
        ; resample-method = speex-float-1
        <br>
        ; avoid-resampling = false
        <br>
        ; enable-remixing = yes
        <br>
        ; remixing-use-all-sink-channels = yes
        <br>
        ; enable-lfe-remixing = no
        <br>
        ; lfe-crossover-freq = 0
        <br>
        <br>
        flat-volumes = no
        <br>
        <br>
        ; rlimit-fsize = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-data = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-stack = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-core = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-as = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-rss = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-nproc = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-nofile = 256
        <br>
        ; rlimit-memlock = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-locks = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-sigpending = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-msgqueue = -1
        <br>
        ; rlimit-nice = 31
        <br>
        ; rlimit-rtprio = 9
        <br>
        ; rlimit-rttime = 200000
        <br>
        <br>
        ; default-sample-format = s16le
        <br>
        ; default-sample-rate = 44100
        <br>
        ; alternate-sample-rate = 48000
        <br>
        ; default-sample-channels = 2
        <br>
        ; default-channel-map = front-left,front-right
        <br>
        <br>
        ; default-fragments = 4
        <br>
        ; default-fragment-size-msec = 25
        <br>
        <br>
        ; enable-deferred-volume = yes
        <br>
        deferred-volume-safety-margin-usec = 1
        <br>
        ; deferred-volume-extra-delay-usec = 0
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        and here's gdm in /etc/passwd
        <br>
        root@Ultralap-6440:~# grep gdm /etc/passwd
        <br>
        gdm:x:121:125:Gnome Display Manager:/var/lib/gdm3:/bin/false
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        I can't find a file in /etc/* that starts up pulse.
        <br>
        I tried
        <br>
        # grep pulse /etc/rc*.d/*
        <br>
        <nothing>
        <br>
        and I tried
        <br>
        # grep pulse /etc/init.d/*
        <br>
        <nothing>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        On 5/3/20 5:28 PM, Alex Kleider wrote:
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On 2020-05-03 15:58, jim wrote:
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">Jim's notes re PulseAudio:
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            PulseAudio ("pulse") was news to me, thank you.
            <br>
            The docs on the web page seem well-written to me.
            <br>
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/">https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/</a>
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/About/">https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/About/</a>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Here's how it looks on my system:
            <br>
            <br>
            root@Ultralap-6440:~# ls -l /etc/pulse
            <br>
            total 20
            <br>
            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1201 May 21  2018 client.conf
            <br>
            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2366 May 21  2018 daemon.conf
            <br>
            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5091 May 21  2018 default.pa
            <br>
            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2046 May 21  2018 system.pa
            <br>
            <br>
            root@Ultralap-6440:~# ps aux | grep ulse
            <br>
            gdm       1175  0.0  0.0 1415668 11308 ?       Ssl  Apr29  
            0:00
            <br>
            /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no
            <br>
            jim       1630  2.4  0.1 2483320 18936 ?       S<l  Apr29
            142:19
            <br>
            /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
            <br>
            root     23512  0.0  0.0  21536  1088 pts/0    S+   15:39  
            0:00 grep
            <br>
            --color=auto ulse
            <br>
            <br>
            root@Ultralap-6440:~# ls /usr/bin/*ulse*
            <br>
            /usr/bin/pulseaudio  /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
            <br>
            <br>
            root@Ultralap-6440:~# man pulseaudio
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          I can't seem to get "pulseaudio --start" to work:
          <br>
          alex@x1:~$ ls -lA /etc/pulse
          <br>
          total 24
          <br>
          -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1201 Aug 15  2019 client.conf
          <br>
          drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 21 17:50 client.conf.d
          <br>
          -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2374 Aug 15  2019 daemon.conf
          <br>
          -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4933 Aug 15  2019
          default.pa                          -13
          <br>
          -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2078 Aug 15  2019 system.pa
          <br>
          alex@x1:~$ ps aux | grep ulse
          <br>
          alex      1492  1.0  0.6 650092 27420 ?        S<sl May02
          15:45 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no
          <br>
          alex      5825  0.0  0.0   6076   892 pts/0    S+   17:19  
          0:00 grep ulse
          <br>
          alex@x1:~$ which pulseaudio
          <br>
          /usr/bin/pulseaudio
          <br>
          alex@x1:~$ pulseaudio --start
          <br>
          alex@x1:~$ ps aux | grep ulse
          <br>
          alex      1492  1.0  0.6 650092 27420 ?        S<sl May02
          15:45 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no
          <br>
          alex      5944  0.0  0.0   6076   824 pts/0    S+   17:21  
          0:00 grep ulse
          <br>
          <br>
          I expect to soon give up this endeavor and turn to antiX or
          mxlinux (as suggested _but not advocated_ by Rick:-)
          <br>
        </blockquote>
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