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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/3/19 8:38 AM, aaronco36 wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:alpine.NEB.2.21.1907031515380.18671@sdf.lonestar.org">Michael
P has put forth the [nearly? | definitely?] existential-type
question 'Whither sf-lug.com' at [01] almost one month to the day
following Rick M's reverberating expiration-deadline warning for
the same at [02].
<br>
<br>
Concerning an unrelated event from another Mailman mailing-list
here in the Bay Area, Michael P has also fairly-recently announced
a Debian Buster Release Party set for Wed 2019-07-10; see [03].
<br>
<br>
Points to note on the impending Debian (GNU/Linux) release :
<br>
<br>
* According to [04], the Debian 10 Buster-as-Stable Release Date
is estimated to happen during this upcoming extended Independence
Day weekend.
<br>
* Criteria for Debian testing to become 'frozen' and testing to
become the new "stable" is at [05] and the current snapshot of
Release-critical (RC) bugs delaying the stable release is at [06].
<br>
* Another reminder of the Debian Project's perpetual "three
releases in active maintenance" is at [07] and further explanatory
and historical details of these "three releases in active
maintenance" is at [08].
<br>
* New features of Buster-as-stable are listed and described within
[09] and within [10].
<br>
* For those who wish to install Buster before the the stable
version is "officially" released this weekend and wish as well to
make sure they have sufficient firmware/drivers to support their
machines, the latest non-free
'firmware-testing-amd64-i386-netinst' weekly build for both
amd64(64bit) and i386(32bit) machines is available via [11].
<br>
* Having already successfully installed this non-official
pre-stable "release" [11] onto both amd64 and i386 machines, I
myself have noticed at least one of the effects of the change(s)
related to Buster's 'util-linux' [12].
<br>
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One of the Debian mirror sites is Cal's OCF computer lab [13];
physically located about a 15min (~0.8mi) slightly uphill walk
Southeast from Berkeley's Triple Rock Brewery location [14] of the
B.A.D.'s Buster Release Party that Michael P has previously
announced at [03].
<br>
Would tentatively hazard a guess that Cal's _Open_ Computer
Facility lab consisting of "29 workstations running Debian Linux"
will generally be kept _Closed_ to non-Cal and/or non-identified
visitors with *very* limited exceptions at best.
<br>
<br>
Also cannot help noting from the Cal OCF lab's list of mirrored
distros at [15] that _no_ other systemd-free distros are currently
available other than perhaps FreeBSD [16] and OpenBSD [17] :-\.
<br>
((Yeah, we've all been through this "systemd sucks" path before
through at least the past thread starting at [18] from within the
last 1/2 year or so.))
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Well add a few more to that systemd free distros, PCLinuxOS64
2019.06, then take a look at the <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.distrowatch.com">www.distrowatch.com</a>> and you
might be able to do a little<br>
search there or here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Alternatives_to_systemd"><http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Alternatives_to_systemd></a>.<br>
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bliss<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:alpine.NEB.2.21.1907031515380.18671@sdf.lonestar.org">
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Besides the Buster-as-Stable release announcement from Distrowatch
[19] and from the FrontPage of the Debian Wiki [20], I'm hopeful
that Bobbie S and/or others will also make the similar release
announcement here to the SF-LUG mailing-list sometime
before/during this Sunday's "Mageia-leaning" meeting ;-> held
at Cafe Enchante [21].
<br>
<br>
Hope that everyone has or will have had a great Fourth of July!
:-)
<br>
-A
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[01]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q3/014230.html">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q3/014230.html</a>
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[02]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q2/014155.html">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q2/014155.html</a>
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[03]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2019-June/003836.html">http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2019-June/003836.html</a>
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[04]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-10.0-Buster-Release-Date">https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-10.0-Buster-Release-Date</a>
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[05]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives#s-frozen">https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives#s-frozen</a>
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[06]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/">https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/</a>
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[07]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.debian.org/releases/">https://www.debian.org/releases/</a>
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[08]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases</a>
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[09]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster">https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster</a>
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[10]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html">https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html</a>
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[11]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/multi-arch/">https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/multi-arch/</a>
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[12]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://packages.debian.org/source/buster/util-linux">https://packages.debian.org/source/buster/util-linux</a>
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[13]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/docs/services/lab/">https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/docs/services/lab/</a>
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[14]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.triplerock.com/">http://www.triplerock.com/</a>
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[15]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/">https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/</a>
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[16]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/freebsd/">https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/freebsd/</a>
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[17]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/openbsd/">https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/openbsd/</a>
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[18]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q1/013689.html">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q1/013689.html</a>
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[19]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://distrowatch.com/">https://distrowatch.com/</a>
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[20]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.debian.org/">https://wiki.debian.org/</a>
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[21]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q3/014228.html">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q3/014228.html</a>
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