<div dir="auto">Mailman tells you not to use a valuable password when you sign up. It's not really a password it's more like a token. Maybe they should change the terminology.<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 3:47 PM Ehud Kaldor <<a href="mailto:ehud.kaldor@gmail.com">ehud.kaldor@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm not too familiar with Mailman, but I think the contemporary approach <br>
is not to have the passwords stored in clear.<br>
<br>
and yes, LinuxChix caught my eye, but looking now it seems like all <br>
Mailmen do that. not good.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/6/19 2:55 PM, Akkana Peck wrote:<br>
> Ehud Kaldor writes:<br>
>> i am registered on it, and it seems it's saving passwords in clear, and the<br>
>> monthly mailer daemon sends them in clear email :(<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your <a href="http://linuxchix.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">linuxchix.org</a><br>
>> mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how<br>
>> to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list.<br>
> [ ... ]<br>
><br>
> Doesn't Mailman always do that? Every Mailman list I'm on does<br>
> things that way, and I don't even know if Mailman has any other<br>
> way of doing things. The list page mentions that explicitly:<br>
> <a href="https://www.linuxchix.org/content/join-our-email-lists-or-read-archives" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linuxchix.org/content/join-our-email-lists-or-read-archives</a><br>
> as do the subscription pages for each list ("Do not use a valuable<br>
> password as it will occasionally be emailed back to you in cleartext.")<br>
><br>
> Doesn't this sf-lug list do the same thing? I don't seem to<br>
> have any saved Mailman notices for sf-lug, but svlug and balug<br>
> (as well as a zillion other technical lists I'm on) send the same<br>
> cleartext reminders.<br>
><br>
> I don't know why Mailman does things that way, but it's definitely<br>
> not a LinuxChix specific problem.<br>
><br>
> ...Akkana<br>
><br>
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