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          Seems to me that <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a> should be <br>
      the canonical name because "lugs" should use <br>
      the .org uppermost domain category and sf-lug <br>
      is most established. <br>
          That said, I don't see how it matters as <br>
      long as people can access the web page ("sflug" <br>
      or "sf-lug" and ".org" or ".com"). <br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/19 12:20 AM, Michael Paoli
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:20190514212053.163648qjmfxsk7ok@webmail.rawbw.com">Cert(s)
      obtained & installed, web server reconfigured ...
      <br>
      SF-LUG non-canonicals
      <br>
      http[s]://{[www.]{sf-lug.com,sflug.{org,com,net}},sf-lug.org}/
      <br>
      HTTP 301 redirect to canonical,
      <br>
      paths are preserved as is REQUEST_SCHEME.
      <br>
      $ (for d in sf-lug.com sflug.org sflug.com sflug.net; do for s in
      '' s; do for w in '' 'www.'; do u=http"$s://$w$d"/; echo "$u"
      $(curl -s -I "$u" | sed -ne 's/\r//g;s/^\([Hh][Tt][Tt][Pp][^ ]*
      [0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1/p;/^[Ll]ocation: /p'); done; done; done) | sort
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sf-lug.com/">http://sf-lug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.com/">http://sflug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.net/">http://sflug.net/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.org/">http://sflug.org/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.com/">http://www.sf-lug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sflug.com/">http://www.sflug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sflug.net/">http://www.sflug.net/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sflug.org/">http://www.sflug.org/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sf-lug.com/">https://sf-lug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.com/">https://sflug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.net/">https://sflug.net/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.org/">https://sflug.org/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.com/">https://www.sf-lug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sflug.com/">https://www.sflug.com/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sflug.net/">https://www.sflug.net/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sflug.org/">https://www.sflug.org/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      $ (for d in sf-lug.com sflug.org sflug.com sflug.net; do for s in
      '' s; do for w in '' 'www.'; do u=http"$s://$w$d"/X; echo "$u"
      $(curl -s -I "$u" | sed -ne 's/\r//g;s/^\([Hh][Tt][Tt][Pp][^ ]*
      [0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1/p;/^[Ll]ocation: /p'); done; done; done) | sort
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sf-lug.com/X">http://sf-lug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.com/X">http://sflug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.net/X">http://sflug.net/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.org/X">http://sflug.org/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.com/X">http://www.sf-lug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sflug.com/X">http://www.sflug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sflug.net/X">http://www.sflug.net/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sflug.org/X">http://www.sflug.org/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sf-lug.com/X">https://sf-lug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.com/X">https://sflug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.net/X">https://sflug.net/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.org/X">https://sflug.org/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.com/X">https://www.sf-lug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sflug.com/X">https://www.sflug.com/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sflug.net/X">https://www.sflug.net/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sflug.org/X">https://www.sflug.org/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      $ (for d in sf-lug.org; do for s in '' s; do for w in ''; do
      u=http"$s://$w$d"/; echo "$u" $(curl -s -I "$u" | sed -ne
      's/\r//g;s/^\([Hh][Tt][Tt][Pp][^ ]*
      [0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1/p;/^[Ll]ocation: /p'); done; done; done) | sort
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sf-lug.org/">http://sf-lug.org/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sf-lug.org/">https://sf-lug.org/</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
      <br>
      $ (for d in sf-lug.org; do for s in '' s; do for w in ''; do
      u=http"$s://$w$d"/X; echo "$u" $(curl -s -I "$u" | sed -ne
      's/\r//g;s/^\([Hh][Tt][Tt][Pp][^ ]*
      [0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1/p;/^[Ll]ocation: /p'); done; done; done) | sort
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sf-lug.org/X">http://sf-lug.org/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/X">http://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sf-lug.org/X">https://sf-lug.org/X</a> HTTP/1.1 301 Location:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/X">https://www.sf-lug.org/X</a>
      <br>
      $
      <br>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sf-lug:resources_etc">https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sf-lug:resources_etc</a>
      <br>
      <br>
      Hmmm, I should get around to writing some regression tests and add
      to
      <br>
      monitoring, so I can quickly detect if any of these "break" due to
      any other
      <br>
      configuration changes or other changes.  My Apache configuration
      <br>
      has gotten a wee bit complex (many domains and virtual
      (ServerName)
      <br>
      hosts and multiple certs and wiki and Mailman and
      <br>
      (soonish) WordPress ...
      <br>
      # find /etc/apache2 \( -name RCS -o -name '.old*' \) -type d
      -prune -o -type f -print | wc -l
      <br>
      295
      <br>
      # find /etc/apache2 \( -name RCS -o -name '.old*' \) -type d
      -prune -o -type d -print | sort
      <br>
      /etc/apache2
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/conf-available
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/conf-enabled
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/conf.d
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/mods-available
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/sites-available
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/sites-available/Include
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/sites-available/rewrites
      <br>
      /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
      <br>
      #
      <br>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">From: "Michael Paoli"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu"><Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu></a>
        <br>
        Subject: Re: SFLUG.org
        <br>
        Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:10:58 -0700
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">I've still not yet heard a consensus or
        approximation thereof ... yet,
        <br>
        that [www.]sflug.org should be the canonical (or not ... or
        when).
        <br>
        In any case, now with some config changes in place on
        <br>
        web server, and awaiting delegation of DNS ... once delegated,
        <br>
        http[s]://[www.]sflug.org/
        <br>
        will at least have somewhere to go:
        <br>
        <br>
        $ curl -s -I --resolve sflug.org:80:198.144.194.238
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.org/">http://sflug.org/</a> | egrep -i '^(HTTP/|Location: )'
        <br>
        HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
        <br>
        Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
        <br>
        $ curl -s -I --resolve sflug.org:80:2001:470:1f05:19e::3
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.org/">http://sflug.org/</a> | egrep -i '^(HTTP/|Location: )'
        <br>
        HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
        <br>
        Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sf-lug.org/">http://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
        <br>
        $ curl -k -s -I --resolve sflug.org:443:198.144.194.238
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.org/">https://sflug.org/</a> | egrep -i '^(HTTP/|Location: )'
        <br>
        HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
        <br>
        Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
        <br>
        $ curl -k -s -I --resolve sflug.org:443:2001:470:1f05:19e::3
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.org/">https://sflug.org/</a> | egrep -i '^(HTTP/|Location: )'
        <br>
        HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
        <br>
        Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sf-lug.org/">https://www.sf-lug.org/</a>
        <br>
        $ dig @ns1.sf-lug.org. +norecurse +short sflug.org. NS
        <br>
        ns1.svlug.org.
        <br>
        ns.primate.net.
        <br>
        ns1.linuxmafia.com.
        <br>
        ns1.sf-lug.org.
        <br>
        $ dig @ns1.sf-lug.org. +norecurse +noall +answer +nottl
        sflug.org. A sflug.org. AAAA <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sflug.org">www.sflug.org</a>. A <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sflug.org">www.sflug.org</a>.
        AAAA
        <br>
        sflug.org.              IN      A       198.144.194.238
        <br>
        sflug.org.              IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::3
        <br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sflug.org">www.sflug.org</a>.          IN      A       198.144.194.238
        <br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sflug.org">www.sflug.org</a>.          IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::3
        <br>
        $ dig +norecurse +noall +comments +answer +nottl sflug.org. A
        sflug.org. AAAA <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sflug.org">www.sflug.org</a>. A <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sflug.org">www.sflug.org</a>. AAAA | sed -ne
        '/^;.*NX/p;/^;.*FAIL/p;/^;.*ANSWER:/p;/^;/d;/^$/d;p' | sort -u
        <br>
        ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 6, ADDITIONAL:
        13
        <br>
        $
        <br>
        <br>
        There are also some other domains in DNS, e.g.:
        <br>
        [www.][ipv[46].]sflug.org
        <br>
        AXFR is open to all for sflug.org. from ns1.sf-lug.org.
        <br>
        <br>
        Still don't have proper certs there ... that would be after
        someone
        <br>
        provides key(s) (securely) and cert(s), etc. ... or after DNS is
        delegated.
        <br>
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">From: "Michael Paoli"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu"><Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu></a>
          <br>
          Subject: SFLUG.org Re: [sf-lug] Domain administration (broken
          WHOIS)
          <br>
          Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2019 21:02:19 -0700
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <blockquote type="cite">From: Al <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:awsflug@sunnyside.com"><awsflug@sunnyside.com></a>
            <br>
            Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Domain administration (broken WHOIS)
            <br>
            Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 15:43:43 -0700
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">sflug.org - Rick mentioned that it was
            available so I grabbed it. I've learned not to wait on those
            things - it often doesn't end well.
            <br>
            Now I'll just sit back and listen to the conversation and
            wait and see if anyone actually wants to use it.  I don't
            need to own it.  I can
            <br>
            also "point" it somewhere.  Doesn't seem yet that there's a
            definite
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          SFLUG.org ... "Of course" ...
          <br>
          $ dig +noall +answer +nottl sf-lug.org. A <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a>. A
          sf-lug.org. AAAA <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a>. AAAA sf-lug.com. A
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.com">www.sf-lug.com</a>. A sf-lug.com. AAAA <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.com">www.sf-lug.com</a>. AAAA | sort
          -k 3b -k 1,1
          <br>
          sf-lug.com.             IN      A       198.144.194.238
          <br>
          sf-lug.org.             IN      A       198.144.194.238
          <br>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.com">www.sf-lug.com</a>.         IN      A       198.144.194.238
          <br>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a>.         IN      A       198.144.194.238
          <br>
          sf-lug.com.             IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::3
          <br>
          sf-lug.org.             IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::3
          <br>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.com">www.sf-lug.com</a>.         IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::3
          <br>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a>.         IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::3
          <br>
          $
          <br>
          <br>
          It's not merely as simple as "just point DNS at ..."
          <br>
          $ curl -s -I --resolve sflug.org:80:198.144.194.238
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.org/">http://sflug.org/</a> | egrep -i '^(HTTP/|Location: )'
          <br>
          HTTP/1.1 302 Found
          <br>
          Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.balug.org/">http://www.balug.org/</a>
          <br>
          $ curl -6 -s -I --resolve sflug.org:80:2001:470:1f05:19e::3
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sflug.org/">http://sflug.org/</a> | egrep -i '^(HTTP/|Location: )'
          <br>
          HTTP/1.1 302 Found
          <br>
          Location: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.balug.org/">http://www.balug.org/</a>
          <br>
          $
          <br>
          <br>
          $ dig +noall +answer +nottl balug.org. A <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.balug.org">www.balug.org</a>. A
          <br>
          balug.org.              IN      A       198.144.194.238
          <br>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.balug.org">www.balug.org</a>.          IN      A       198.144.194.238
          <br>
          $
          <br>
          Note that many domains go to that same IPv4 IP - even multiple
          go to the
          <br>
          same IPv6 IP.
          <br>
          <br>
          "Of course" sometimes folks forget that with email too.  8-O
          <br>
          <br>
          Not to mention certs.
          <br>
          $ curl -I --resolve sflug.org:443:198.144.194.238
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.org/">https://sflug.org/</a>
          <br>
          curl: (51) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name
          matches target host name 'sflug.org'
          <br>
          $ curl -I --resolve sflug.org:443:2001:470:1f05:19e::3
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sflug.org/">https://sflug.org/</a>
          <br>
          curl: (51) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name
          matches target host name 'sflug.org'
          <br>
          $
          <br>
          <br>
          $ nmap -Pn -r -sT -p 443 --script=ssl-cert <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a> |
          egrep '^\| (Subject Alternative Name|Not valid after):'
          <br>
          | Subject Alternative Name: DNS:*.ipv4.sf-lug.org,
          DNS:*.ipv6.sf-lug.org, DNS:*.sf-lug.com, DNS:*.sf-lug.org,
          DNS:sf-lug.com, DNS:sf-lug.org
          <br>
          | Not valid after:  2019-05-22T10:05:40
          <br>
          $
          <br>
          <br>
          I generally do letsencrypt.org issued certs.  For wildcard
          certs on
          <br>
          that, effectively need control of DNS (need to put specific
          records in
          <br>
          at challenge time).
          <br>
          <br>
          "Of course" y'all could always set up your own site with
          redirection and
          <br>
          certs 'n all.  ;-)
          <br>
          <br>
          Jim Stockford - and a handful of others (myself, Grant Bowman,
          <br>
          Kim Davalos, Todd Hawley) have access to edit the
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sf-lug.org">www.sf-lug.org</a> site.
          <br>
          So, "of course", there are, at least potentially, question(s)
          of who's
          <br>
          got access/control of domain(s), avoiding single points of
          failure (at
          <br>
          least as feasible), who's got access to edit site, how is it
          backed
          <br>
          up, etc.  Some folks (myself, Jim Stockford, Grant Bowman)
          also all have
          <br>
          access to edit the sf-lug.org (& sf-lug.com) master DNS
          data (and
          <br>
          Jim and myself have access to update registrant
          <br>
          DNS (authority/delegation, glue, DNSSEC, ...) with the
          registrar).
          <br>
          <br>
          Anyway, ... maybe I'll wait a bit 'till the dust settles.  :-)
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
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