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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/6/19 7:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Quoting Bobbie Sellers (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com" moz-do-not-send="true">bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com</a>):
[Fatdog64 release 800 beta:]
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">It even has GSmartControl which is a very good tool if you have had
the same disk for awhile and need to check it for problems due age or
accident.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">For those curious what the heck that is, it's just a gtk+ 3.x-based
graphical front end to the standard smartmontools.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/S.M.A.R.T" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/S.M.A.R.T</a>.</pre>
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It has saved me a good deal of time with my used machines <br>
which developed problems and isolated it to aged hard drives<br>
which are easily and quickly replaced at relatively low cost these<br>
days.<br>
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Also: Fatdog64 is yet another installable live distro, in this case
originally derived from Puppy Linux, and more recently based on
Slackware. 2017 review: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/84433.html" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/84433.html</a></pre>
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And when you exit it offers to create a Save File on the hard
disk...<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Joseph P. came in and carried along a flawless G4 iBook. He is having
problems connecting to WiFi. After some experimentation I found that for
the Cafe Enchante, he did not have WAP available. I have suggested he go to
the SFPL and use an Internet cable to do some updates. But Apple had
the style for the iBook down even back in G4 days.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I note with appreciation your separate attempt to help Joseph with the
WiFi-connetivity problem, which I gather involves the necessarily very
outdated MacOSX preload. And, my point is about that: The final
release of OS X for PowerPC was version 1.05 'Leopard' in 2007, whose
final release was 10.5.8 on August 13, 2009, over nine years ago. Of
course, the G4 iBook's OS load is at _best_ that outdated. Maybe a lot
worse.</pre>
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That was only 4 years of support from the time the iBook was
released.<br>
But the user suggestion to get online by turning off the
firewall makes me queasy.<br>
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The best solution, IMO, to Joseph's problem is: Linux. Not finding
ways to limp along a dangerously unmaintained OSX.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://distrowatch.com/search.php?architecture=powerpc" moz-do-not-send="true">https://distrowatch.com/search.php?architecture=powerpc</a></pre>
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I agree with you on that point,<br>
I have found Distrowatch now has a good tool for finding
releases that support the PPC and that there<br>
are about 5 or 6 respectable candidates.<br>
Which ever Joseph wants I will do my best to get it into his
hands.<br>
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The writing has been on the wall since Tthe mid-2000s, however, that
PowerPC (except for some niches that PPC Macs aren't in) was going away,
and it's best to not bank on them. Nostalgia for computer hardware has
practical limits, and IMO PowerPC Macs are far past their day.</pre>
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Yes PPCs were Apple's plan to destroy everyone who depended on
PPC production which <br>
hurt a lot of folks in the Amiga area of interest. Still though
some consumer/video editing<br>
machines are being sold at high, high prices using the ill chosen
PPC.<br>
But this is the hardware that Joseph could get at a cost
approaching zero.<br>
Which a good price for someone in economic difficulty.<br>
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Bobbie Sellers<br>
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