<div><div dir="auto">I’m not a Debian user but isn’t there an installer image that allows you to perform the installation without configuring your network? This way you can just get the system running and configure your network devices later. Sorry if I missed details.</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 8:39 AM aaronco36 <<a href="mailto:aaronco36@sdf.org">aaronco36@sdf.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Rick Moen <rick at <a href="http://linuxmafia.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">linuxmafia.com</a>> wrote at [01]:<br>
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I'm willing to bet that your Debian system will show at least two more<br>
valid network interfaces in the 'ip a' output, beyond the built-in<br>
'lo'=loopback virtual network interface that's internal to all TCP/IP<br>
hosts. They're just unconfigured.<br>
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You _could_ fix up your installed system after the fact.<br>
Debian recommends this: <br>
<a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_modern_network_configuration_without_gui" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_modern_network_configuration_without_gui</a><br>
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Excellent help in providing that network assistance in [01] :-)<br>
IMO, the Debian Reference guide [02] _continues_ to be incredibly helpful!<br>
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OTOH and IMHO, I'm wondering whether Rick M's Linuxmafia.com <br>
'Knowledgebase-Debian' [03] could use some major revisions to better <br>
assist others such as myself and perhaps a few others install and use Debian?<br>
Cases in point.......<br>
- The 'Installing and using Apache httpd 2.x on Debian' [04] is over a <br>
dozen years old, still mentions Debian woody, and also from what I've seen <br>
from that webpage and its links, didn't seem to anticipate the bots that <br>
are apparently _still_ slowing down <a href="http://linuxmafia.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">linuxmafia.com</a> [05] :-\<br>
- The Debian Linux User's Guide by Dale Scheetz (Linux Press) [06] is two <br>
decades old (going all the way back to the days of Rick M's <br>
"<a href="http://hugin.imat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hugin.imat.com</a>"[07] maybe??) and covers setting-up the older PPP via <br>
'ifconfig'[08], as opposed to using the current 'ip a' to "show at least <br>
two more valid network interfaces" as specifically mentioned above.<br>
- The versions of Debian listed at [09] were _all_ deprecated well over a <br>
decade ago, namely<br>
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buzz (release 1.1)<br>
rex (1.2)<br>
bo (1.3)<br>
hamm (2.0)<br>
slink (2.1)<br>
potato (2.2)<br>
woody (3.0) current "stable" branch<br>
sarge (3.1) current "testing" branch<br>
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- The last listed link at [03] entitled 'Woody Non-vulnerabilities'[10] <br>
isn't even around anymore.<br>
- There is also the 'Debian Tips' webpage from almost exactly 19 years ago <br>
[11] which among other antiquities, also mentions using Debian woody (and <br>
Debian 2.1 "Slink").<br>
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Just my own two cents on all that -- am ready to Duck Down as the fury <br>
flies All Around :-o<br>
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-A<br>
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[01]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q4/013582.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q4/013582.html</a><br>
[02]<a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/</a><br>
[03]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian/</a><br>
[04]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/apache2.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/apache2.html</a><br>
[05]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q4/013578.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q4/013578.html</a><br>
[06]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/users-guide-edition2.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/users-guide-edition2.html</a><br>
[07]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/hugin.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/hugin.html</a><br>
[08]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/users-guide-edition2.html#S6" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/users-guide-edition2.html#S6</a><br>
[09]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/tracks.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/tracks.html</a><br>
[10]<a href="http://www.debian.org/security/nonvulns-woody" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.debian.org/security/nonvulns-woody</a><br>
[11]<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/debian/tips" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/debian/tips</a><br>
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According to Karsten MS's <br>
<a href="http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Linux/FAQs/partition.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Linux/FAQs/partition.html</a> this is something <br>
like a strating point of how you might want to minimally partition it for <br>
i386 Debian Stretch w/ LXQt, for i386 Devuan ASCII w/ LXQt, or even for <br>
i386 BL Helium w/ Openbox...<br>
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80GB PATA<br>
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/dev/sda1 ---> 500MB /boot<br>
/dev/sda2 ---> 70GB /<root><br>
/dev/sda3 ---> 3000MB swap (3 x current physRAM)<br>
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<a href="mailto:aaronco36@sdf.org" target="_blank">aaronco36@sdf.org</a><br>
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