Hi Alex,<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rick Moen</b> <<a href="mailto:email@example.com">firstname.lastname@example.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>> and<br>> what is ment by<br>> :r!<br>> ????<br><br>Meaningful to anyone who knows the "vi" editor. ;-> <br></blockquote></div><br>Alex, I feel your pain, here, as Clinton said. I didn't know what that meant either. Hanging out on a list like this is good for your brain, because you will learn stuff through osmosis. vi is an important text editor because it is really old and because it can run in a virtual shell. A virtual shell is important, because sometimes the eye candy that runs on top of Linux can get goobered up and locked and stalled, but Linux is still humming away happily underneath. If your keyboard is responsive, sometimes you can get rid of the programs that are causing your computer to freeze up, without having to reboot the computer, which is a really useful tool.
<br><br>So try depressing your cntrl and alt keys at the same time, and then touch the F3 key. Your screen will go black, and you will get the virtual shell. You will be asked for a login, which means you can enter the same user name and password that you used to get into GNOME or KDE. (I seem to recall you use GNOME on your desktop). Don't worry, your GNOME programs are all still functioning; you just can't see them. To bet back to your GNOME programs, you just have to depress your cntrl and alt keys again, and hit the F7 key, and boom, you are back as if nothing changed.
<br><br>When you are in the virtual shell, you can do lots of important and useful stuff, such as kill runaway processes (locked programs), as well as use the vi editor. (To pronounce vi, say "vee eye"). For example, I'm pretty sure that I say Daniel Gimpelevich, another SF Linux user, use vi to help another new user, Charles Francis, solve a problem that Charles was having with a fancy video card. I *think* that Daniel used vi to edit a config file for the monitor or for the card or something like that. It was really fast and snappy, and boom, Daniel solved that problem quickly.
<br><br>In other words, the power of vi is that it lets you solve really deep problems when all of the GNOME programs are just too locked up to solve the problems. The other thing that is powerful about vi is that it is useful with all or nearly all Linux programs. Once you learn it, you don't have to worry about what you are going to do if your X quits or locks.
<br><br>Learning vi is really hard, though. I tried a little bit, and it really kicked my ass. heh.<br><br>Thanks for asking that question. I didn't know what it was either. <br><br>see ya<br>