[sf-lug] SF-LUG draft web page changes

Sun Mar 1 09:00:56 PST 2026

One item to possibly consider adding, IMHO, is providing instructions to
_reduce_ that larger font size for the admittedly few persons like myself
who may find the default font size is a bit too much using the web
browsers of choice.

In at least the Firefox and Waterfox web browsers, one can effect this ad
hoc edit by way of the consecutive menu selections View --> Zoom --> Zoom
Out (shortcut as Ctrl - ).
Two Ctrl - key-combo presses yield a _very_ acceptably readable 80percent
reduction in that larger font size for this particular user.... but of
course YMMV :-)

-A

> Today's Topics:
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>    1. SF-LUG draft web page changes (Michael Paoli)
>    2. Re: SF-LUG draft web page changes (Ron)
>    3. Re: SF-LUG draft web page changes (Ken Shaffer)
>    4. Re: SF-LUG draft web page changes (Michael Paoli)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 19:43:16 -0800
> From: Michael Paoli <michael.paoli at berkeley.edu>
> To: SF-LUG <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: [sf-lug] SF-LUG draft web page changes
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> Uhm, haven't seen/heard peep since 2026-01-10,
> and there's been "next" draft, hanging out there since 2026-01-07 quite
> unchanged:
> https://www.sf-lug.org/index_beta.html
> only change since then is I just updated the date on it for
> next meeting, which per the earlier automatically updates on
> https://www.sf-lug.org/
> So, ... want to promote that index_beta.html version to the current
> production
> https://www.sf-lug.org/
> or ???
> Shouldn't really have a long term unchanging beta just hangin' out
> there, so what say ye?
> Or if folks can't be bothered to speak up (crickets), should I
> programmatically create something that will break the 0/0 ties by
> arbitrarily deciding and implementing, or not and scrapping the
> proposed/staged changes?
> And I just dropped
> https://www.sf-lug.org/index_alpha.html
> As it's likewise been doing nothing for well over a month (was just a
> copy of index_beta.html to draft/stage/promote next set of changes).
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 20:08:10 -0800
> From: Ron <ron at bclug.ca>
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] SF-LUG draft web page changes
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> Michael Paoli wrote on 2026-02-28 19:43:
>
>> Uhm, haven't seen/heard peep since 2026-01-10,
>> and there's been "next" draft, hanging out there since 2026-01-07 quite
>> unchanged:
>> https://www.sf-lug.org/index_beta.html
>
> I find the beta version much easier to read, with the larger font size.
>
>
> The IPv6 and IPv4 specific links - they could (IMHO) go away: there are
> tools to reach the site using either protocol specifically, and usually
> it does not matter which one a browser users.
>
>
> On the other hand, they are kinda neat to test one's connectivity if one
> happens to have IPv6 at home and wants to test it.
>
>
> So, keep 'em, I say. (Flip. Flop.)
>
>
> Looks good to me.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:44:36 -0800
> From: Ken Shaffer <kenshaffer80 at gmail.com>
> Cc: SF-LUG <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] SF-LUG draft web page changes
> Message-ID:
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> The beta font size is fine on an external monitor at 100% -- no need to
> use
> 120% zoom.
> On a phone in landscape, OK, no zoom needed. Phone in portrait, still way
> too small.
> Result on the devices I use, the beta is preferable to the old site. YMMV
> Ken
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 7:44?PM Michael Paoli <michael.paoli at berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Uhm, haven't seen/heard peep since 2026-01-10,
>> and there's been "next" draft, hanging out there since 2026-01-07 quite
>> unchanged:
>> https://www.sf-lug.org/index_beta.html
>> only change since then is I just updated the date on it for
>> next meeting, which per the earlier automatically updates on
>> https://www.sf-lug.org/
>> So, ... want to promote that index_beta.html version to the current
>> production
>> https://www.sf-lug.org/
>> or ???
>> Shouldn't really have a long term unchanging beta just hangin' out
>> there, so what say ye?
>> Or if folks can't be bothered to speak up (crickets), should I
>> programmatically create something that will break the 0/0 ties by
>> arbitrarily deciding and implementing, or not and scrapping the
>> proposed/staged changes?
>> And I just dropped
>> https://www.sf-lug.org/index_alpha.html
>> As it's likewise been doing nothing for well over a month (was just a
>> copy of index_beta.html to draft/stage/promote next set of changes).
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:51:36 -0800
> From: Michael Paoli <michael.paoli at berkeley.edu>
> To: SF-LUG <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] SF-LUG draft web page changes
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> On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 8:08?PM Ron <ron at bclug.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Michael Paoli wrote on 2026-02-28 19:43:
>>
>> > Uhm, haven't seen/heard peep since 2026-01-10,
>> > and there's been "next" draft, hanging out there since 2026-01-07
>> quite
>> > unchanged:
>> > https://www.sf-lug.org/index_beta.html
>>
>> I find the beta version much easier to read, with the larger font size.
>
> Well, with all the votes tallied up for well over 30 days,
> 100% in favor, so implemented.
>
> Version control under RCS, in both meanings of the word,
> so yeah, that includes under
> https://www.sf-lug.org/RCS/
> and
> file:///var/www/www.sf-lug.org/RCS/
> if anyone needs/wants to review history of
> (at least some of) earlier versions (and now also
> including current for index.html).
> see also: rcs(1), ci(1), co(1)
>
>> The IPv6 and IPv4 specific links - they could (IMHO) go away: there are
>> tools to reach the site using either protocol specifically, and usually
>> it does not matter which one a browser users.
>>
>> On the other hand, they are kinda neat to test one's connectivity if one
>> happens to have IPv6 at home and wants to test it.
>>
>>
>> So, keep 'em, I say. (Flip. Flop.)
>> Looks good to me.
> I'm kind'a inclined to keep 'em .. at least somewhere
> on the page, but now, and especially with the larger text,
> kind'a inclined to possibly further shrink - or more notably tighten
> up the liks, reduce the text/empahsis, maybe/probably not have as
> a separate section separated out by horizontal rules, etc.  Minor, but
> yeah, I'm inclined to keep ... but further tighten up and deemphasize 'em.
> Also is sometimes quite handy to have / know of separate links for such,
> e.g. when one wants to check from a client where one may not to pick
> specifically v4 or v6 - e.g. browser on "smart" phone.  And yeah,
> there are tools 'n such, but most require JavaScript or the like, so may
> not be so reliable and/or have dependencies.
>
> Though with the larger text ... that's just that one page,
> nothing else so defaults on that same web server domain.
> Of course not much else there, so maybe not much of an issue.
>
>
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