[sf-lug] SF-LUG December 2025 Mtg

[Michael Paoli]

Gee, let's see ... SF-LUG ...
http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2025q4/016177.html
About 216 members, so besides just myself and Rick who do most everything else
systems-wise for SF-LUG (+Al also covers some additional domains and
DNS secondaries),
who can actually volunteer to update that web page?  I mean it's a
Linux User Group.  I dunno, like use ssh and vi (or vim, or egad,
maybe even nano)
and wee bit of sudo to access and edit a basic HTML web page.
I mean it's not that hard:
login via ssh
sudo to access the sflugwww account
Then the web content is in /var/www/www.sf-lug.org/ and that sflugwww
account has
access to edit, add, or remove, almost all of the SF-LUG web content.

Uhm, and more useful volunteering than, "Sure, I'll help!  What's vi?
What's ssh?"
A little help, sure, but having to spoon feed someone steps to the
point where it's
far more resource burn than directly doing it ourselves, isn't much of
volunteer help.
I mean if you want to bake cookies for a meeting or something like
that, sure, but that's
not as useful for updating a web page.  Alas, too many accounts, month(s) or
more later I lock down, because either the person couldn't ever even
bother to log
in at all and even change from their initial temporary password, or
does basically
nothing with their account - and I really don't want idle accounts
sitting around forever
exposed to the Internet of folks that I'm skeptical of even being able
to set and
maintain a secure password (or lock that down and use ssh key).
And, it's not like I couldn't, e.g. edit the web page, but I spend
sufficient time attending
to things that most or all others wouldn't have the access to and/or
be spending the
many hours or more to attend to (e.g. much more complex and/or time
consuming tasks).

Not gonna name names, but ... so, besides myself, Rick, and Al ...
have set up four additional user accounts ... volunteers to help with the SF-LUG
stuff on the web host (and DNS primary) ... and they've done ... yeah,
about nothing on the site.  :-/  Yeah, each of those accounts has
access to edit the web site and/or update DNS (depending upon the
account and reasons created and what was volunteered for).

So ... is that crickets I hear again, or ...?

On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 11:06 AM Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > * virtual remains:
> > https://meet.jit.si/sf-lug.org
> > Browser: one will need sufficiently recent version of, e.g.
> > Chromium, Chrome, or possibly Firefox - in any case one that well
> > supports WebRTC.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > OTOH, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> still has his highly relevant
> > comments available for review within his June 2024 posting [4] on the
> > actual Jitsi Meet "requirements".
>
> Yeah, about that:
>
> My point over a year ago was that SF-LUG's boilerplate text about Jitsi
> Meet requirements was inaccurate and (the bigger problem) discourages
> newcomers by incorrectly suggesting it's a software obstacle course.
>
> Saying "any reasonably modern graphical Web browser" would be a huge
> improvement.