[sf-lug] less than 6 hours: sflug.org expires 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z: Re: 2020-04 sflug.{org, com, net} expirations
Michael Paoli
Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu
Mon Apr 6 01:58:15 PDT 2020
Uhm, does it cut the timing *that* close? ... or *beyond* "close"?
Well under 6 hours 'till expiration.
So ... midnight, ... which timezone, and is that before expiration,
or *after*?
$ whois sflug.org 2>&1 | fgrep -i expir; TZ=GMT0 date -Iseconds
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
2020-04-06T08:54:35+00:00
$
> From: Al <awsflug at sunnyside.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] 2020-04 sflug.{org,com,net} expirations
> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 21:18:33 -0700
> I think I may have mentioned before that the sflug.* domains are on
> auto-renew.
> They won't be going away.
> They will auto-renew on midnight of the last day - a bit of
> brinksmanship but that's their system at the registrar.
>
> On 3/27/2020 20:57, Michael Paoli wrote:
>> Well, sorry, I probably could've worded that better.
>> Let's see if this helps make it sufficiently clear.
>>
>> Most of the work is change. Notably dropping domain(s),
>> or adding domain(s) ... or the especially frustrating annoyance of
>> dropping and readding.
>>
>> So, the non-canonicals, I don't really care if you keep 'em or
>> not ... not my $$. But if they get dropped, I have to do the work
>> of dropping 'em from the infrastructure. And if I end up needing to
>> do that, I'm probably going to be unwilling to do the work to
>> readd them (e.g as sf-lug.com was earlier dropped ... then readded).
>> So, ... if it drops, I drop it ... but I'm probably not willing to
>> readd a domain that's dropped - that's a whole lot 'o
>> drop/add work that's not worth my time/resources/energy for a whole
>> LUG that can't manage to spend like about ~$14.00 USD or so per year
>> per domain to avoid having me do all that otherwise unnecessary work.
>>
>> So ... hopefully that's more clear. It's the drop and/or add that's
>> most of the work (and especially if it's both). I.e. the change -
>> that's the work.
>>
>> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2020q1/014640.html
>>
>>> From: jim <jim at well.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] 2020-04 sflug.{org,com,net} expirations
>>> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:35:39 -0700
>>
>>> anybody got opinions?
>>> Keep or drop? Michael suggests either way
>>> means work for him.
>>> If I recall rightly, sf-lug.org is the
>>> canonical domain name. sflug.org (and
>>> sflug.com and sflug.net) are there as
>>> a matter of convenience for possible
>>> spelling confusion (e.g. someone looking
>>> for a lug in san francisco).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/27/20 6:12 AM, Michael Paoli wrote:
>>>> 2020-04 sflug.{org,com,net} expirations
>>>> My calendar and whois(1) tells me:
>>>> 2020-04-06 sflug.org domain expires 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z
>>>> 2020-04-11 sflug.com domain expires 2020-04-11T18:20:31Z
>>>> 2020-04-11 sflug.net domain expires 2020-04-11T18:20:33Z
>>>> $ (for d in sflug.{org,com,net}; do echo "$d:"; whois "$d" 2>&1 |
>>>> grep -i 'expir.*20[0-9][0-9]-'; done)
>>>> sflug.org:
>>>> Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z
>>>> sflug.com:
>>>> Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:31Z
>>>> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:31Z
>>>> sflug.net:
>>>> Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:33Z
>>>> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:33Z
>>>> $
>>>>
>>>> So ... these are non-canonical. Doesn't particularly matter to me if
>>>> they're kept or dropped, but each such action ends up involving a fair
>>>> bit 'o work on my end. So ... don't be willy-nilly doing drops/adds.
>>>> If I drop 'em from "my" infrastructure (and DNS slaves, etc.) - a fair
>>>> bit 'o work, I may not be willing to readd them (which would be yet
>>>> again a fair bit 'o work). And when would I drop 'em from "my"
>>>> infrastructure? Anytime after registrar DNS delegation is no longer
>>>> functioning - at that point the domains become non-functional and much
>>>> more of a liability and pain than anything else.
>>
>>
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