[sf-lug] sf-lug.net & sf-lug.com ... also set to auto-renew likewise just before expiration, or ???

Al awsflug at sunnyside.com
Sat Mar 28 06:25:37 PDT 2020


Yes, sorry, should have mentioned those at the same time.

On 3/28/2020 00:19, Michael Paoli wrote:
> So, likewise for sf-lug.net and sf-lug.com,
> auto-renew at/around midnight of last day?
> If so, I'll so note.
>
> Thanks.
>
> 2020-09-03 sf-lug.net domain expires 2020-09-03T23:38:28Z
> 2020-09-07 sf-lug.com domain expires 2020-09-07T18:09:17Z
> $ (for d in sf-lug.{net,com}; do echo "$d" $(whois "$d" 2>&1 |
>> grep -i 'expir.*20[0-9][0-9]-'); done)
> sf-lug.net Registry Expiry Date: 2020-09-03T23:38:28Z Registrar 
> Registration Expiration Date: 2020-09-03T23:38:28Z
> sf-lug.com Registry Expiry Date: 2020-09-07T18:09:17Z Registrar 
> Registration Expiration Date: 2020-09-07T18:09:17Z
> $
>
>> From: Al <awsflug at sunnyside.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] 2020-04 sflug.{org,com,net} expirations
>> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 21:18:33 -0700
>
>> I think I may have mentioned before that the sflug.* domains are on 
>> auto-renew.
>> They won't be going away.
>> They will auto-renew on midnight of the last day - a bit of 
>> brinksmanship but that's their system at the registrar.
>>
>> On 3/27/2020 20:57, Michael Paoli wrote:
>>> Well, sorry, I probably could've worded that better.
>>> Let's see if this helps make it sufficiently clear.
>>>
>>> Most of the work is change.  Notably dropping domain(s),
>>> or adding domain(s) ... or the especially frustrating annoyance of
>>> dropping and readding.
>>>
>>> So, the non-canonicals, I don't really care if you keep 'em or
>>> not ... not my $$.  But if they get dropped, I have to do the work
>>> of dropping 'em from the infrastructure.  And if I end up needing to
>>> do that, I'm probably going to be unwilling to do the work to
>>> readd them (e.g as sf-lug.com was earlier dropped ... then readded).
>>> So, ... if it drops, I drop it ... but I'm probably not willing to
>>> readd a domain that's dropped - that's a whole lot 'o
>>> drop/add work that's not worth my time/resources/energy for a whole
>>> LUG that can't manage to spend like about ~$14.00 USD or so per year
>>> per domain to avoid having me do all that otherwise unnecessary work.
>>>
>>> So ... hopefully that's more clear.  It's the drop and/or add that's
>>> most of the work (and especially if it's both).  I.e. the change -
>>> that's the work.
>>>
>>> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2020q1/014640.html
>>>
>>>> From: jim <jim at well.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] 2020-04 sflug.{org,com,net} expirations
>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:35:39 -0700
>>>
>>>> anybody got opinions?
>>>> Keep or drop? Michael suggests either way
>>>> means work for him.
>>>> If I recall rightly, sf-lug.org is the
>>>> canonical domain name. sflug.org (and
>>>> sflug.com and sflug.net) are there as
>>>> a matter of convenience for possible
>>>> spelling confusion (e.g. someone looking
>>>> for a lug in san francisco).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/27/20 6:12 AM, Michael Paoli wrote:
>>>>> 2020-04 sflug.{org,com,net} expirations
>>>>> My calendar and whois(1) tells me:
>>>>> 2020-04-06 sflug.org domain expires 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z
>>>>> 2020-04-11 sflug.com domain expires 2020-04-11T18:20:31Z
>>>>> 2020-04-11 sflug.net domain expires 2020-04-11T18:20:33Z
>>>>> $ (for d in sflug.{org,com,net}; do echo "$d:"; whois "$d" 2>&1 | 
>>>>> grep -i 'expir.*20[0-9][0-9]-'; done)
>>>>> sflug.org:
>>>>> Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z
>>>>> sflug.com:
>>>>>    Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:31Z
>>>>> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:31Z
>>>>> sflug.net:
>>>>>    Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:33Z
>>>>> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-11T18:20:33Z
>>>>> $
>>>>>
>>>>> So ... these are non-canonical.  Doesn't particularly matter to me if
>>>>> they're kept or dropped, but each such action ends up involving a 
>>>>> fair
>>>>> bit 'o work on my end.  So ... don't be willy-nilly doing drops/adds.
>>>>> If I drop 'em from "my" infrastructure (and DNS slaves, etc.) - a 
>>>>> fair
>>>>> bit 'o work, I may not be willing to readd them (which would be yet
>>>>> again a fair bit 'o work).  And when would I drop 'em from "my"
>>>>> infrastructure?  Anytime after registrar DNS delegation is no longer
>>>>> functioning - at that point the domains become non-functional and 
>>>>> much
>>>>> more of a liability and pain than anything else.
>




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