[sf-lug] Sonic: Re: Inexpensive Internet provider in Brisbane?

Thu Mar 26 19:35:21 PDT 2020

And I 'think' [last I spoke with a Sonic client...] they still don't
throttle you back, block/censor any sites, 'cap' downloads, or give access
to
gov. agencies with names and those without.
Please correct me if that is incorrect.

'm......' ... >>>

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On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:14 PM Zach Hanna <chezbut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Generally i greatly recommend Sonic, especially if you can get bonded
> VDSL, or their fiber.
> They are way, way, way less congested than Comcast or any cable provider,
> regardless of opinions about the 'value proposition' of the rated
> connection speed...actual throughput during peak times is what matters to
> me.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Indeed...
>> Was going to reference that as well but hadn't gone to see the current
>> 'status'.
>>
>>
>> 'm......' >>>
>>
>>
>> message ends.
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>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:47 PM Tony Godshall <togo at of.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Or you could get your internet from space soon.
>>>
>>> https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-fcc-permit-consumer-internet/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 2:51 PM Tony Godshall <togo at of.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> MonkeyBrains works great for us, except for the times the
>>>> windowwashers on the building down the hill knocked their equipment
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> Much better than Comcast, 30% cheaper for the same downstream
>>>> bandwidth, and symmetrical upstream.
>>>>
>>>> Of course if we could get fiber in our building, I'd go for that.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:03 PM maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > WE had a very shitty experience with 'monkey brains' and would very
>>>> strongly recommend against giving them
>>>> > a penny and/or any validation.
>>>> > Crap customer service, subcontracting to installers/maintenance who
>>>> 'claim' to have 0 info when on-site [not their fault in our cases].
>>>> > Subcontractors tell them things are needed and they totally ignore
>>>> them.
>>>> > People with accounts call them and no one answers the phone(s) and
>>>> don't return calls.
>>>> > Their customer service and wifi service was independently audited
>>>> [non-public report] and received a complete fail in every aspect.
>>>> > They say they're going to provide hardware to areas of properties
>>>> then don't.
>>>> > Their mission was [uncertain current locales] to kiss-ass to get into
>>>> properties and get their hardware up on roofs then they turn rude,
>>>> > non-responsive, unprofessional, and do a complete 180 with customer
>>>> service.
>>>> > Opt-out.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 'm......' >>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > message ends.
>>>> > __________________
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Todd Hawley <celticdm at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It appears from looking at their coverage map that MonkeyBrains
>>>> offers service in Brisbane.
>>>> >> That might be an alternative if Sonic doesn't pan out.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -th
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:41 AM aaronco36 <aaronco36 at sdf.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Quoting Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> :
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> >>> Sonic - from my research this past December, and at least for
>>>> residential,
>>>> >>> if Sonic has fibre to the building, that's all that they'll offer
>>>> for any
>>>> >>> new service.  No static IPv4, and other limitations on it ... but
>>>> it has
>>>> >>> bandwidth.
>>>> >>> Sonic still does DSL, and I'm guestimating they'll offer it for new
>>>> >>> service if there's still no fibre to the building.  I didn't price
>>>> it
>>>> >>> (there's fibre to my building), but I'm guessing the price is
>>>> >>> reasonable(ish?) for their DSL.
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> And directly from the 'Check Availability' quote from Sonic's
>>>> Residential
>>>> >>> page https://www.sonic.com/residential using a pair of residential
>>>> >>> addresses in SF's Sunset District :
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>>>> >>> One Service Available
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> RECOMMENDED
>>>> >>> Internet + Home Phone
>>>> >>> Your internet speed: 20 Mbps
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 'Your price'$40/MO
>>>> >>> Save $10 for 12 months
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regular price: $50/mo
>>>> >>> Get $10 off Sonic service for first 12 mos
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Internet delivered over AT&T's network using one Fiber-to-the-Node
>>>> data
>>>> >>> line, plus one home phone line.
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Would the 'Check Availability' probes revealing that Sonic could
>>>> deliver
>>>> >>> Internet "over AT&T's network" mean that "there's still no fibre to
>>>> the
>>>> >>> building" (as Michael P wrote above) for these particular Sunset
>>>> District
>>>> >>> customers, that Sonic would have to rely upon AT&T's pre-existing
>>>> >>> "Fiber-to-the-Node" data line, and that therefore the quoted 20 Mbps
>>>> >>> Internet speed is that of lower-end DSL speeds, yes?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Please feel free to elaborate upon this :-)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ((No, I did _not_ (yet) scope out Sonic's Internet service
>>>> provisions in
>>>> >>> Brisbane or Daly City! ))
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -A
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> aaronco36 at sdf.org
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