[sf-lug] (forw) Re: (forw) Re: SF-LUG meeting notes for Sunday 02022020

[Rick Moen]

Bobbie, once again, this should have gone to the public forum, as part
of the ongoing public thread.  Also, in the future, you really ought to
ask participants in an ongoing public thread whether they are OK with 
your suddeny diverting into a private side-discussion, and not make that
decision for both parties without either consulting them or citing a
sudden need for privacy.  It's rude.

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 07:52:50 -0800
From: Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com>
To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
Subject: Re: [sf-lug] (forw) Re: SF-LUG meeting notes for Sunday 02022020
Reply-To: bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com


On 2/2/20 11:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Bobbie wrote:
> 
>> Actually I did consider that but sadly am having a few problems with
>> the attempts I have made so far.
> Well, then, I'd suggest (IMO) that those few problems are the ones that
> it would be best in the long term to focus on.
> 
> Obviously, that's just my opinion, and you should make up your own mind,
> of course, but you just got through saying that you had to give up on
> trying Fedora because its ISO wasn't a live distro, so at least to that
> extent you've been limited as to what you can even try at all.  Also,
> as I've detailed in the past, there's just no way that live-distro
> component selection and performance can give a reasonable impression of
> what it would be like to run an installed system.
Actually CentOS rather than Fedora whcih is generally Live.

> 
> On another matter, I'm really unclear on how there could be any
> significant problem with VirtualBox is you give it a modest amount of
> free RAM and disk space (if that's the problem area).  It's really one
> of the most cut-and-dry novice-friendly things around, which (along with
> not costing anything) is why it's so extremely popular.
> 
>> So far I have tried following the directions at this site but have
>> encountered problems due to various causes but mainly with the time it
>> takes to do the sequence of events involved in the installation.
>> <https://dephace.com/how-to-build-a-hacking-lab-with-virtualbox/>
> https://dephace.com/how-to-build-a-hacking-lab-with-virtualbox/
> You don't specify whether you're having a problem installing VirtualBox
> (which would be really weird, because you just run a canned installer
> for most OSes; if running on Linux, just install a distro package) _or_
> with installing something (what?) into a VM after successful VirtualBox
> installation.
> 
> Also, you really shouldn't need a special Web page full of instructions.
> VirtualBox in my experience doesn't really need much in the way of
> documentation.
    Experiences differ between users as do objectives and daily
life.  Mine have been that VB requires
fairly regular updates.  Each is rather large.
> 
>> I really don't have the time at the Cafe to do these operations and so
>> far have not been able to get a previously processed file to reload.
> So, is the situation that you have VirtualBox running, but then for some
> reason cannot boot an ISO file within a new VM window?  (It's a bad sign
> that I am obliged to ask, because that means I've not been able to get a
> clear sense of the situation from your description.)  What's the
> symptom?  If you don't bother to specify what went wrong, it's not
> possible for anyone to help you.
    I simply do not know what is going wrong.  I take hours to
install a file, shut down the file, shut down VB
and restart the next day or week and find that my time had been ill
spent as the Virtual Box when it restarts
cannot see or load the file previously installed.
> 
> [Kaisen Linux 20191229 beta for x86_64:]
> 
>> I will try that again but was hoping a Francophone might volunteer
>> from the LUG to evaluate this distro.
> The implication of Kaisen Linux shipping MATE Desktop is that it equally
> supports IIRC a couple of dozen major languages.  One is merely the
> _default initial configuration_, judging by yours description.  So, all
> you have to do is find and use the language selection thingie.

    Ah the Language selection thingie but not having a large
technical French finding the
Localization section of the configuration may be beyond my skill. I
will or may give it a try
when I have taken care of all the other stuff I have to do.

    It should indeed but many distributions these days are designed
for a single language use.
Other localizations may be downloaded and then installed but it can
save lots of space on the
iso apparently.

    Bobbie Sellers




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