[sf-lug] SF[-]LUG & domain(s) Re: Domain ...

[Michael Paoli]

Well, as for sf-lug.org & sf-lug.com on joker.com ...
whois ... it has Jim (James Stockford) & Rick Moen,
as for access to that (e.g. change or whatever), I've got access
and I believe Jim still does too.
As for the "broken" whois ...
Yeah, ... GDPR ...
https://joker.com/index.joker?mode=reseller_docs#gdpr
I'm not spotting, at least easily on joker.com - a way to "unhide"
the customary whois data.


> From: "Rick Moen" <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] SF[-]LUG & domain(s) Re: Domain ...
> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 16:02:28 -0700

> Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu):
>
>> Domain(s) ... SF-LUG ... I see, without hyphen, compared to the
>> existing sf-lug.org (canonical) & sf-lug.com ...
>> without -, I see .org is taken, but .com is available.
>> Not sure if you were referring to the former or the latter.
>> I also notice from the expiration date of the former, it was
>> probably very recently (Expiry Date: 2020-04-06T14:09:16Z)
>> either acquired - or renewed.
>
> At the moment I was composing that message, /usr/bin/whois reported
> sflug.org as available for registration.  I was conflicted about whether
> it was wise to mention that fact explicitly, so I split the difference
> and hinted.  Yes, the .com equivalent is currently still registerable,
> but it was sflug.org that occasioned my comment.
>
>
> That having been said, my other, and larger, pressing concern was
> the sudden appearance of 'private' WHOIS.  I'm not even 100% sure who
> currently owns sf-lug.org/com.  Is it Jim?  That's one of the effects of
> 'private' whois:  The public cannot even see who the stakeholders are.
>
> Seriously, I'm curious, who the Registrant, Tech Contact, and Admin
> Contact are for the two existing SF-LUG domains.  Anyone know?  And does
> anyone know what group of SF-LUG volunteers have working credentials for
> the registrar account at Joker.com?
>
> Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  ;->
>
> If nobody knows, then if some mishap occurs like accidental domain
> expiration, then everyone at SF-LUG is going to be left wandering
> around saying _someone_ ought to fix the problem, but with no clue who
> can and should do so.  This is one of the side effects of 'private'
> WHOIS entries, such as I cited earlier this afternoon as having been
> recently (and currently) applied to sf-lug.org/com.
>
>
> When I looked at the archives of this mailing list for discussion of
> SF-LUG domain registration (hoping to refresh my memory), I found a
> posting of mine from January 19, 2012 where I cited to Jim Stockford's
> attention several severe problems with the LUG's DNS and domain
> registration, the latter covered in my point #3:
>
>   POINT3:  Contact names/mailboxes in sf-lug.org's public domain records
>   are a total train wreck -- completely broken.
>
>   The public 'whois' records are the official method for reaching domain
>   officials and owners, e.g., to say 'Dude, your DNS is broken' or many
>   other things -- including warning notices about upcoming domain
>   expirations.  The sf-lug.org domain is (wisely) registered out to the
>   middle of next year, so it's not going to expire soon, but it's a very
>   bad idea for lots of other reasons to have your public contact
>   information be broken.
>
>   Public points of contact are:  Registrant, Admin Contact, Technical
>   Contact.  SF-LUG's domain data _fail_ to specify a named person for any
>   of those roles, and (worse) shows 'no.valid.email at worldnic.com' as the
>   contact mailbox for all three roles.
>
>   These are serious problems.
>
> Jim was at the time in sole administrative control of the domains.
> At the time, he said thanks for the help, and that he'd investigate and
> report back.  Subsequent postings to that thread addressed site-internal
> problems such as the Web server displaying directory listings rather
> than a main index page, but did not address the DNS or domain problems.
>
>
> SF-LUG has a long history of ignoring prominent system-administrative
> problems and later regretting having done so.  IMO, this would be an
> excellent time to stop doing that.  So, to repeat, for starters:
>
> 1.  Who owns Internet domains sf-lug.org and sf-lug.com?
> 2.  Who are the Admin Contact and Tech Contact?
> 3.  Which people have the relevant Joker.com login credential?