[sf-lug] small Linux installations: Re: choices/defaults ...

maestro maestro415 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 4 10:11:22 PDT 2018


[quoting michael paoli]



>>a nice healthy lean CLI with lots of useful stuff, and with some
reasonably careful selection,
>>relevant X11, window manager, and relevant utilities.


would you be willing to share what you run/add/write that isn't already
packaged with the distro "useful stuff"-wise, "utilities"-wise etc.?


thank you...


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On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Michael Paoli <
Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> From: "Rick Moen" <rick at linuxmafia.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] choices/defaults: Re:  systemd 8-O ...
>> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 22:26:33 -0700
>>
>
> and you _can_ install it, but it's horribly compromised by shoehorning
>> it into a 48MB ISO file, and it doesn't even have reasonable package
>> management.'
>>
>> Helpers:  'Because the user had only a 2.1GB hard drive.'
>>
>> RM:  'Excuse me?  That's gobs of room for Debian, Slackware, AntiX,
>> Kanotix, and many more.  Heck, you can even do CentOS or Mandriva with
>> that.  Over two gigs is a _lot_.'
>>
>> Helpers:  'We tried Debian, but it was going to require several
>> gigabytes.'
>>
>> RM:  'Not if you install only what you actually need and want.  And also
>> you should remove and disable processes you don't wish to run, if only
>> to save wasteage of RAM.'
>>
>
> Yes, having quite recently done a Debian stall, doing a minimal
> (deselecting all the package collections options in
> "Software selection" in that screen of options in the default Debian
> installer from the standard ISO images) ...
> worked out to have quite small footprint ... I find it well under 700 MiB
> of used drive space on the install (that was also after I'd ripped out
> most all of systemd ... didn't check before, but likely fairly similar).
> And after running an
> # apt-get -y clean
> it was down under 600 MiB!  Now, that might not be highly practical for a
> more typical, even "small" distribution, but fitting it within 2 GiB of
> drive
> space should be easy-peasy in most/many cases, and even under 1 GiB in
> some/many.  Heck, for years, I had (still have it around somewhere) a
> 2 GiB microSD I'd use in a USB "reader", and had a Debian installation
> that I would boot and run on that!  Worked great!  (Yes, I know, highly
> non-ideal drive media/interface - but worked quite "well enough" for
> my purposes).  I'd mostly use that in a work environment where they
> insisted
> I have some other sucky operating system on the laptop drive, and wouldn't
> let me change the drive to dual-boot, etc., and there was stuff I actually
> needed to do ... often and especially when dealing with hardware in the
> data center or doing some specific networking troubleshooting operations
> (and serial port communications and break signals on serial lines ...)
> that, well, sucky operating system just couldn't do it (at least with
> what I could use on it).  But, thankfully, they were fine with me
> booting the laptop off of other media and running stuff from there, so,
> e.g. Knoppix on optical or USB, or ... my fairly tiny little Debian
> installation I put within 2 GiB of storage and booted and ran via the
> USB ... dang well did what I needed to do.  And solved/fixed data
> center communication issues that absolutely nobody else on the entire
> team at the company could resolve ... and, yeah, including production
> issues <sigh>.
>
> So, yep can fit quite a lot within 2GiB of storage.  Sure, not some huge
> bloated desktop environment, but a nice healthy lean CLI with lots of
> useful stuff, and with some reasonably careful selection, relevant
> X11, window manager, and relevant utilities.
>
>
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