[sf-lug] done: Re: sf-lug.org "32-bit" (i386) to "64-bit" (amd64)

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Tue Jul 7 01:17:27 PDT 2015

Quoting Daniel Gimpelevich (daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us):

> On Mon, 2015-07-06 at 03:37 +0000, jim wrote:
> >     Does a 20160702 expiration date mean that 
> > the domains are lost to us? Note that NetSol 
> > has charged me for the domain registration 
> > through July 2, 2016. 
> Note that the expiration date is in the future. What was the date of the
> charge?

Unfortunately, I think what you're seeing there is a very common
registrar dodge that _many_ (not all) registrars use on expiring
domains.  The registrar steps in and changes the Registrant (owner) to
itself or to something deliberately murky, and adds _exactly 1 year_ to 
the expiration field beyond the actual date of expiration -- that future
date then displayed to the public.  

The registrar then steps in and acts like the new owner with a new
one-year runtime on the domain, and (at its option) offers the domain
for sale.

I infer/guesstimate, based on the other data shown in whois fields, that
the sf-lug.org and sf-lug.com domains ticked over to an actual
expiration on 2015-07-02, and NetSol's scripts then artificially
inflated that to 2016-07-02 for purposes of its own business interests.

Thus my comment that they are expired.

I do not know what NetSol currently offers customers in the way of
ransom arrangements.  Suggest Jim find out without delay.  (And:  Never,
ever have invalid e-mail addresses for the whois fields in the future.)

A few seconds of searching finds:

  If a customer does not renew the domain name registration by the
  expiration date, the domain name registration is subject to deletion at
  any time after that. In an effort to help our customers avoid
  unintentional deletion of their domain name registration(s), we may, but
  are not obligated to, provide our customers with a “grace period” after
  their domain name registration services expiration date(s) (a “grace
  period” begins on the day after the date of expiration). We currently
  endeavor to provide a grace period that extends 35 days past the
  expiration date, to allow the renewal of domain name registration
  services. During this period a customer can renew a domain name
  registration; however, a grace period is not guaranteed and can change
  or be eliminated at any time without notice. Consequently, every
  customer who desires to renew his or her domain name registration
  services should do so in advance of the expiration date to avoid any
  unintended domain name deletion.


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