[sf-lug] www.sf-lug.org & sf-lug.org - not looking so good on The Internet
jim
jim at well.com
Wed Feb 6 08:08:29 PST 2013
Truly clarifying! Thanks. Worth reading for anyone
learning about DNS.
On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 20:26 -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Jim Stockford (jim at systemateka.com):
>
> > http://www.sf-lug.org
> > better?
>
> Jim, as I was trying to say upthread: _Yes._ Except for people whose
> local nameservers still are supplying the old DNS returned value as
> cached data because it's already there and within the published Time To
> Live TTL) of 7200 seconds = 2 hours.
>
> Herewith, one of my periodic efforts to reduce Linux users' confusion
> about DNS matters. (It's not really mysterious.)
>
> You said: 'I think I fixed it at about 7 PM PST Tuesday 20130205.'
> And so you did. Specifically, the two authoritative nameservers for the
> sf-lug-org domain, ns41.worldnic.com and ns42.worldnic.com, had until
> then been publishing this line for 'www.sf-lug.org':
>
> www.sf-lug.org. 7200 IN A 208.69.40.247
>
> You changed that to this, switching to the same target IP address used
> for sf-lug.com:
>
> www.sf-lug.org. 7200 IN A 208.96.15.252
>
>
> The '7200' you see there is the TTL, the Time To Live value associated
> with (and sent out with) this DNS record. TTL means 'Please consider
> this data stale and presumptively no good if it's older than this number
> of seconds.'
>
> You updated the published value at, let's say for the sake of
> illustration, exactly 7:00 PM local time. However, a bunch of SF-LUG
> people such as you, Machiel Paoli, me, and various others had been
> test-loading the Web page, thereby causing our local DNS nameservers to
> look up the DNS value during the 6 PM hour. So, those local nameservers
> of ours have lodged within their caches what the nameservers believe to
> be still-valid answers to the question 'What does the A record for
> www.sf-lug.org point to?', those being still valid because they were
> fetched less than 7200 seconds ago from the authoritative nameservers.
>
> The worldwide DNS system works largely because of extremely pervasive
> local caching, which is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing in
> that it's the only thing preventing worldwide DNS from burning down from
> excess traffic. It's a curse in that most DNS answers people use are
> cached values that are in no way guaranteed to necessarily match the
> current values offered by the domains' authoritative DNS servers.
>
> Where DNS is concerned, the 'dig' command is your kung-fu. You can
> answer just about any question with it. Please see my earlier post for
> some examples.
>
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