[sf-lug] Microsoft trying to shut out dual-booting machines with UEFI...

[Alex Kleider]

The question then becomes: Will there be any non sticker-ed boxes to buy?

 

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From: Wladyslaw Zbikowski <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com>
To: Jeff Bragg <jackofnotrades at gmail.com>
Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Microsoft trying to shut out dual-booting machines with UEFI...

My impression is that this has nothing to do with Windows 8 per se; it
has to do with what hardware vendors are required to do to get an
official "Windows 8" sticker from Microsoft. In other words, the same
kind of trick Microsoft pulled in the 90s when they told OEMs to
install (or at least pay for) Windows on every box they made, in order
to sell any Windows boxes:

Microsoft has induced many OEMs to execute anticompetitive "per
processor" contracts for MS-DOS and Windows, even though many would
prefer to preserve their freedom to offer PCs with non-Microsoft
operating systems.

http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f0000/0046.htm

The difference here is, vendors can still sell non-Microsoft boxes;
they just can't put a "Windows 8" sticker on them. So just don't buy a
box with a "Windows 8" sticker.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Jeff Bragg <jackofnotrades at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good question, to which I have no good answer.  My suspicion is it will
> depend on the virtualization software (whether it's implementing emulation
> the the expected firmware).  I can't imagine it would serve MS' interests to
> squash virtualization of Windows as a side-effect of being spiteful to
> competing OSes.
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch <darose at darose.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/22/2011 03:57 PM, Jeff Bragg wrote:
>>>
>>> Incentive for me to continue to steer clear of MS Windows entirely (or
>>> only
>>> virtualized).
>>
>> Which actually brings up another point:  wouldn't this change make it
>> impossible (or very difficult) to run Windows 8 as a VM?
>>
>> DR
>>
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