[sf-lug] sf-lug Digest, chrome

Charles Holzschuh xolzscxux at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 2 10:45:11 PDT 2010


I have been using chrome for about two years. Love it. It uses much less screen area.
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> Subject: sf-lug Digest, Vol 53, Issue 2
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> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:08 PM
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: Google phasing out Microsoft
> products... (Brian Morris)
>    2. Re: For Linux lovers everywhere (Brian
> Morris)
>    3. Google Chrome (was: Re: Google phasing
> out Microsoft
>       products...) (Michael Shiloh)
>    4. Re: Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out Microsoft
>       products...) (jason stone)
>    5. Re: Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out Microsoft
>       products...) (vincent polite)
>    6. Re: Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out Microsoft
>       products...) (Rick Moen)
>    7. Re: Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out Microsoft
>       products...) (Brian Morris)
>    8. Re: Google phasing out Microsoft
> products... (Brian McGroarty)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:07:56 -0700
> From: Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Google phasing out Microsoft
> products...
> To: bliss at sfo.com
> Cc: SF-LUG <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
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> 
> Notice the last paragraph.
> 
> Windows is often quoted as having ~80% of the market,
> however
> 
> 1) Its more like the reverse of that or less in the server
> market
> (" 80% of the 'what' market").
> 
> 2) The figure is probably units, does not reflect user
> numbers in
> industry, or $ values, or even big university systems with
> thousands
> of users per site ...
> 
>  I tell people "you use Linux every day" -- whenever you
> use Google...
> 
> Brian
> 
> p.s. Is anyone out there actually running Chrome (outside
> of Google
> employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or is it more
> like what
> Mac has done with BSD ?
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/1/10, Bobbie Sellers <bliss at sfo.com>
> wrote:
> > "Google is phasing out the internal use of Microsoft?s
> ubiquitous
> > Windows operating system because of security concerns,
> according to
> > several Google employees."
> >
> > http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/d2f3f04e-6ccf-11df-91c8-00144feab49a.html
> >
> >
> >      Any use of Windows is subject to
> review by the Google managements.
> > Macs and Linux will be the standards at Google.
> >
> >      later
> >      Bobbie Sellers
> >
> >
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:33:06 -0700
> From: Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] For Linux lovers everywhere
> To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
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> 
> The c confuses things, didn't it always mean "create" ?
> thus
> conflicting with x ? Unless you want to think of it as C,
> which to me
> confuses things.
> 
> anyway I would prefer xvjf as the new way, xvzf as the old
> way.
> 
> maybe those were already taken.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/1/10, Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > rotfl
> >
> > you know he/she is old school because youngsters would
> use zxvf
> >
> > On 06/01/2010 09:34 AM, John F. Strazzarino wrote:
> >>
> >> Walking thru the parking lot at the San Bruno Bart
> Station the other
> >> day...
> >> License Plate on Car...
> >> TAR XFCV
> >> Gotta love it....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:50:31 -0700
> From: Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [sf-lug] Google Chrome (was: Re: Google phasing
> out Microsoft
>     products...)
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
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> 
> 
> On 06/01/2010 06:07 PM, Brian Morris wrote:
> 
> > p.s. Is anyone out there actually running Chrome
> (outside of Google
> > employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or is it
> more like what
> > Mac has done with BSD ?
> 
> 
> I use Chrome whenever I need to view Youtube. For some
> reason the Flash 
> viewer keeps crashing on Firefox.
> 
> I generally hate Youtube and Flash so it's not worth me
> spending any 
> time to fix.
> 
> Do I like it? It seems pretty snappy, but I prefer
> Vimperator (Firefox 
> with VI control and no GUI)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:00:54 -0700
> From: jason stone <jasonstone at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out
>     Microsoft   
> products...)
> To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi Michael
> 
> I too was having problems with Flash crashing after
> upgrading my
> Ubuntu installation to 10.04 (64bit Lucid).  Firefox
> would crash
> entirely, but Chrome would only crash the particular window
> with an
> error.  It would stay on the URL however, and would
> allow a reload.
> 
> To resolve the issue, I followed the instructions at the
> URL below
> which essentially ran a shell script that removed competing
> binaries
> and allowed one installation to shine through...
> 
> http://blog.mattrudge.net/2010/05/07/installing-flash-player-from-repository-on-ubuntu-10-04-64-bit/
> and the direct link to the script...
> http://www.mattrudge.net/files/new-64bit-flash-installer.tar.gz
> 
> Take a look, perhaps give it a shot.  Maybe it will
> solve your problem.
> 
> -jason
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Michael Shiloh
> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 06/01/2010 06:07 PM, Brian Morris wrote:
> >
> >> p.s. Is anyone out there actually running Chrome
> (outside of Google
> >> employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or is
> it more like what
> >> Mac has done with BSD ?
> >
> >
> > I use Chrome whenever I need to view Youtube. For some
> reason the Flash
> > viewer keeps crashing on Firefox.
> >
> > I generally hate Youtube and Flash so it's not worth
> me spending any time to
> > fix.
> >
> > Do I like it? It seems pretty snappy, but I prefer
> Vimperator (Firefox with
> > VI control and no GUI)
> >
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:01:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: vincent polite <vpolitewebsiteguy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out
>     Microsoft   
> products...)
> To: michael at michaelshiloh.com,
> sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <751468.99607.qm at web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Chrome has between 5.6% and 14.5% of the browser market. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 6:50:31 PM
> Subject: [sf-lug] Google Chrome (was: Re: Google phasing
> out Microsoft products...)
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/01/2010 06:07 PM, Brian Morris wrote:
> 
> > p.s. Is anyone out there actually running Chrome
> (outside of Google
> > employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or is it
> more like what
> > Mac has done with BSD ?
> 
> 
> I use Chrome whenever I need to view Youtube. For some
> reason the Flash viewer keeps crashing on Firefox.
> 
> I generally hate Youtube and Flash so it's not worth me
> spending any time to fix.
> 
> Do I like it? It seems pretty snappy, but I prefer
> Vimperator (Firefox with VI control and no GUI)
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:10:17 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out
>     Microsoft products...)
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
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> Quoting Michael Shiloh (michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com):
> > On 06/01/2010 06:07 PM, Brian Morris wrote:
> > 
> > >p.s. Is anyone out there actually running Chrome
> (outside of Google
> > >employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or is
> it more like what
> > >Mac has done with BSD ?
> > 
> > I use Chrome whenever I need to view Youtube. For some
> reason the
> > Flash viewer keeps crashing on Firefox.
> 
> Brian's phrasing suggests he was asking about ChromeOS, not
> the Chrome
> Web browser.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 21:27:56 -0700
> From: Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Google Chrome (was: Re: Google
> phasing out
>     Microsoft   
> products...)
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID:
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> 
> On 6/1/10, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> wrote:
> > Quoting Michael Shiloh (michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com):
> >> On 06/01/2010 06:07 PM, Brian Morris wrote:
> >>
> >> >p.s. Is anyone out there actually running
> Chrome (outside of Google
> >> >employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or
> is it more like what
> >> >Mac has done with BSD ?
> >>
> >> I use Chrome whenever I need to view Youtube. For
> some reason the
> >> Flash viewer keeps crashing on Firefox.
> >
> > Brian's phrasing suggests he was asking about
> ChromeOS, not the Chrome
> > Web browser.
> 
> Yes, that is what I meant.
> 
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:08:20 -0700
> From: Brian McGroarty <brian.mcgroarty at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Google phasing out Microsoft
> products...
> To: Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> Cc: SF-LUG <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > p.s. Is anyone out there actually running Chrome
> (outside of Google
> > employees) ? How is it, is it really Linux, or is it
> more like what
> > Mac has done with BSD ?
> 
> I've monkeyed with it a bit. In short: think web tablet
> with keyboard attached.
> 
> Only the browser is presented, along with some very
> minimal
> configuration options. It's possible to get to the shell if
> you know
> the magic invocation (ctrl-alt-T from the login screen) but
> it's not
> clear that this will be part of the final configuration,
> and I haven't
> seen any documentation on how to get at it once logged in.
> 
> There are a handful of browser changes to make the
> environment more
> usable as a desktop, such as undocking (untabbing?) some
> tabs and
> turning them into always-on-top floaters. I don't see any
> way of
> running installed apps if they aren't coded as browser
> plug-ins, and
> there's no sign of a generic window manager. Browser tabs
> and floater
> tabs are it. For things like IM, email, and other always-on
> apps,
> you're expected to use the left-most tabs, and select an
> option to pin
> the tabs. That leaves nothing but the site icon in the tab
> bar and
> might have made them resistant to ctrl-w closing (not
> certain here).
> 
> Incidentally, your Google login is your desktop login. No
> separate
> user account is presented by the OS, unless you jump into
> the shell.
> Pretty much everything is synced to your Google account,
> presumably so
> you get the exact same setup regardless of what you log
> onto and
> where.
> 
> I'm not actively following, but from the smattering of
> Google blog
> posts and talks I've seen, the goal is to make these run
> with just a
> few gigs of flash for storing the OS. If you see a Chrome
> OS netbook
> with a hard drive: they're doing it wrong. Even for things
> like
> photos, the assumption is that you want to copy straight
> from the
> flash card to Picassa or Flickr without storing a local
> copy. In their
> ideal machine, you can't even touch the built-in media or
> control the
> automatic OS updates without popping the battery out and
> flipping a
> hidden switch.
> 
> I doubt anyone on this list should consider making it their
> main
> machine. But it sounds great for a light-use travel machine
> or
> something you can toss to a visitor at home. These things
> are going to
> be dirt cheap, zero maintenance, and usable for school and
> some kinds
> of business. They should be non-threatening to the kind of
> casual user
> who wants email, web, videos and little else.
> 
> Does anyone know if some kind of Google marketplace is
> expected to
> land on Chrome OS as well? Also, any kind of machine
> certification
> planned? Is there any reason to think it won't show up with
> ARM,
> Loongson or other cheaper-than-dirt CPUs?
> 
> 
> 
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