[sf-lug] Other locations

jim jim at well.com
Wed Sep 3 11:11:32 PDT 2008


there are restaurants that serve beer, too. 
and mondays are usually slow for them as well. 

On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 13:59 -0400, Blake Haggerty wrote:
> Well that, I am not too sure of, here is what a quick google search
> turned up... Some of these places are kinda swankey and trendy not
> really conducive to an effective meeting but its a start...
>  
> http://gridskipper.com/61754/wifi-bars-of-san-francisco
>  
> If anyone has any suggestions for a good bar that doesn't get too much
> traffic and would have an atmosphere that would be conducive to our
> meetings but you don't think they have Wifi please let me know. This
> is where my skills can come into play. I am good at convincing people
> and selling them on ideas. Most bars/restaurants already have an
> internet connection in back offices..., So we just have to convince
> them to allow us to give them a router (I can provide that...).
> Mondays are slow at bars I think they would jump on a free solution to
> get 10 or so regular customers for no investment costs.
> 
> Blake Haggerty
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>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From:jim jim at well.com 
> To: "Blake Haggerty" ;
> Cc: "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" ;
> Sent: Sep 3, 2008 10:40:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Other locations
> 
> 
> 
> our first vote for beer. so where serves beer 
> and wi-fi? 
> got suggestions for neighborhoods, blake? 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 13:22 -0400, Blake Haggerty wrote: 
> > Well, I figured I'll throw in my 2 cents, Although I am not able to 
> > regularly attend meetings a move from Java Cat to St. Anthonys
> would 
> > pretty much make irregular attendance; non attendance. My general 
> > opinion is that St. Anthonys is not in the greatest neighborhood 
> > (arguably the worst neighborhood in the city). I walk almost 
> > everywhere I go and I don't feel completely comfortable walking
> around 
> > parts of the tenderloin at night. 
> > 
> > As for other suggestions; I would love a place that serves beer :)
> I 
> > would be much more inclined to attend on a regular basis knowing I 
> > could enjoy a beer or two during our meetings... 
> > 
> > Best Regards, 
> > 
> > Blake Haggerty 
> > Permanent Placement Specialist 
> > 
> > Work: 
> > 415-788-8488 x6062 
> > Fax: 
> > 415-788-2592 
> > 
> > Email: 
> > blake.haggerty at sapphire.com 
> > 
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/blakehaggerty 
> > 
> > Sapphire 
> > Technologies 
> > 
> > 
> > See who we know in common 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From:jim jim at well.com 
> > To: "Jason Turner" ; 
> > Cc: "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" ; 
> > Sent: Sep 3, 2008 10:01:51 AM 
> > Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Other locations 
> > 
> > 
> > that's more like a nickle, but nice. 
> > 
> > my idea for a third timeslot for asheesh's 
> > talk is that a different location seems to 
> > be an important consideration for his talk. 
> > if we go to a different location at a regular 
> > time, it's possible someone will show up at 
> > javacat and be disappointed. 
> > given that this is a lab/tutorial event, 
> > it seems excusable. it has the benefit that 
> > we are scouting out alternative places to 
> > javacat. if we find one that works, we can 
> > change the meeting arrangements to use that 
> > place for one of our two monthly meetings. 
> > the grind is reasonably close to haight 
> > street and castro-divisadero and fillmore 
> > street buses, though not very close to BART. 
> > it's open and roomy, food isn't too bad as 
> > i recall. closes at 8 PM weekdays. 
> > 
> > your caution regarding keymasters is 
> > good. one of our prospective locations is 
> > saint anthony's, which christian is looking 
> > into. seems important that if we choose 
> > that location for anything we have access, 
> > including coming a bit early (for setup) 
> > and staying a bit late (for tear-down but 
> > also for extra talking). 
> > saint anthony's bears a bit more 
> > discussion: there's a community there that 
> > might benefit from the attentions of people 
> > such as us: linux and open source software, 
> > training, support. aside from finding a 
> > good place for asheesh's training or an 
> > alternative place to javacat, there's the 
> > idea of somehow involving those of us who 
> > want to be involved in helping out that 
> > community. might dovetail with the KIPP 
> > school effort in some way, too. 
> > 
> > well, see your nickle and raise you. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 01:44 -0700, Jason Turner wrote: 
> > > I'll certainly sign up for Asheesh's deb tutorial. Adding a third 
> > > meeting time to SF-LUG's monthly calendar? Er, ok. For me, that 
> > seems 
> > > a bit excessive -- especially under the current "free form" 
> > structure 
> > > of the gatherings and their average attendance. If one were to be 
> > > designated a lab/tutorial/installfest & troubleshoot time, that'd
> be 
> > a 
> > > little more compelling. 
> > > 
> > > You asked for $.02 worth right? 
> > > 
> > > In terms of locations -- well, I don't know any of the places
> named 
> > thus 
> > > far particularly well. I appreciate and agree with the MUNI 
> > > constraint. Just for fun, I'll add two more cafes to the list: 
> > > 
> > > Kaleo, in the Inner Sunset. Pretty limited hours a couple blocks 
> > from a 
> > > web of MUNI stops. 
> > > 
> >
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/kaleo-cafe-san-francisco#hrid:epJIZQRaDNuCiTMYjrQiVA/query:cafe 
> > > 
> > > The Grind, in the Lower Haight. 
> > > 
> >
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-grind-cafe-san-francisco#hrid:MWumRa-_lwmZGAPg4Ct37A/query:cafe%20wireless 
> > > 
> > > Though unspecified as a constraint, my preference would be spaces 
> > open 
> > > to the public that do not require special/additional 
> > coordination(with a 
> > > keymaster). Unless of course, the group did decide to specify
> this 
> > new 
> > > time as being much more structured -- something it seemed the
> folks 
> > at 
> > > SFSU(for example) required in order to make their
> facilities(which 
> > are 
> > > more conducive to presentations) available. 
> > > 
> > > No vote on potential new timing. Though I'm aware that weekday 
> > evenings 
> > > pretty much rule out the above Kaleo suggestion. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > jt 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > jim wrote: 
> > > > the hard constraint of sunday noonish 
> > > > or monday early evening seems unnecessary: 
> > > > if we pick a different day and time, we 
> > > > won't have to worry that someone would 
> > > > show up at javacat while we're elsewhere. 
> > > > i like the idea of a third time and 
> > > > different location. can we try various 
> > > > third times and different locations until 
> > > > we discover what works best? 
> > > > 
> > > > your #1 is not as close to Muni as #2 
> > > > and about the same distance from BART as 
> > > > #3, seems to me. parking is often easy 
> > > > for #1, which matters to me (and some 
> > > > others, i think). it seems noisy and has 
> > > > a similar table setup as javacat. 
> > > > never been to #2 or #3. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 16:44 -0700, Asheesh Laroia wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > >> What would people think of us looking at other locations? 
> > > >> 
> > > >> I've been looking on Yelp, and the constraints as I see are as 
> > follows: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> * Hard constraint: Open during SF-LUG meetings on Mondays and 
> > Sundays 
> > > >> (This is harder than you might think.) 
> > > >> * Has free wifi. 
> > > >> * Would be able to seat a bunch of people. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Soft constraint: 
> > > >> * Should be close to public transit 
> > > >> * Has better food and better seating than the Javacat. 
> > > >> * Can retain SF-LUG's "neighborhood" feel as compared to
> BALUG's 
> > grittier 
> > > >> downtown feel (I'm joking! (oar am I? (or am I?))) 
> > > >> 
> > > >> In some ways, I"d prefer to keep it close to SF-LUG's current 
> > location, 
> > > >> but in some ways that location is pretty inconvenient for me
> and 
> > a few 
> > > >> other people. We can maybe do a poll later to consider that 
> > question. 
> > > >> Until then, I make three suggestions for discussion's sake: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 1. Brain Wash (SOMA) 
> > > >> * Location: 7th St & Folsom St, near Civic Center MUNI + BART 
> > > >> * Some of us went there recently. 
> > > >> * 
> > http://www.yelp.com/biz/brainwash-cafe-and-laundromat-san-francisco 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 2. H Cafe (Castro) 
> > > >> * Location: 17th St & Sanchez St (near Castro MUNI) 
> > > >> * http://hcafesf.com/community.html has nice-looking pictures 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 3. Cafe La Taza (Mission) 
> > > >> * Location: Mission St between 20th & 21st, close (ish?) to
> 24th 
> > St BART 
> > > >> * Delicious food 
> > > >> * http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-la-taza-san-francisco-2 
> > > >> 
> > > >> I didn't look at places in very many neighborhoods due to my 
> > BART/MUNI 
> > > >> obsession. There are many, many places that don't meet the
> first 
> > hard 
> > > >> constraint. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Of these, I prefer #1's transit accessibility. I never
> actually 
> > sat down 
> > > >> there, though. What do others think? 
> > > >> 
> > > >> -- Asheesh. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > > 
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