[sf-lug] Other locations

Wed Sep 3 10:36:51 PDT 2008

   our first vote for beer. so where serves beer 
and wi-fi? 
   got suggestions for neighborhoods, blake? 

On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 13:22 -0400, Blake Haggerty wrote:
> Well, I figured I'll throw in my 2 cents, Although I am not able to
> regularly attend meetings a move from Java Cat to St. Anthonys would
> pretty much make irregular attendance; non attendance. My general
> opinion is that St. Anthonys is not in the greatest neighborhood
> (arguably the worst neighborhood in the city). I walk almost
> everywhere I go and I don't feel completely comfortable walking around
> parts of the tenderloin at night. 
>  
> As for other suggestions; I would love a place that serves beer :) I
> would be much more inclined to attend on a regular basis knowing I
> could enjoy a beer or two during our meetings... 
>  
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> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:jim jim at well.com 
> To: "Jason Turner" ;
> Cc: "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" ;
> Sent: Sep 3, 2008 10:01:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Other locations
> 
> 
> that's more like a nickle, but nice. 
> 
> my idea for a third timeslot for asheesh's 
> talk is that a different location seems to 
> be an important consideration for his talk. 
> if we go to a different location at a regular 
> time, it's possible someone will show up at 
> javacat and be disappointed. 
> given that this is a lab/tutorial event, 
> it seems excusable. it has the benefit that 
> we are scouting out alternative places to 
> javacat. if we find one that works, we can 
> change the meeting arrangements to use that 
> place for one of our two monthly meetings. 
> the grind is reasonably close to haight 
> street and castro-divisadero and fillmore 
> street buses, though not very close to BART. 
> it's open and roomy, food isn't too bad as 
> i recall. closes at 8 PM weekdays. 
> 
> your caution regarding keymasters is 
> good. one of our prospective locations is 
> saint anthony's, which christian is looking 
> into. seems important that if we choose 
> that location for anything we have access, 
> including coming a bit early (for setup) 
> and staying a bit late (for tear-down but 
> also for extra talking). 
> saint anthony's bears a bit more 
> discussion: there's a community there that 
> might benefit from the attentions of people 
> such as us: linux and open source software, 
> training, support. aside from finding a 
> good place for asheesh's training or an 
> alternative place to javacat, there's the 
> idea of somehow involving those of us who 
> want to be involved in helping out that 
> community. might dovetail with the KIPP 
> school effort in some way, too. 
> 
> well, see your nickle and raise you. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 01:44 -0700, Jason Turner wrote: 
> > I'll certainly sign up for Asheesh's deb tutorial. Adding a third 
> > meeting time to SF-LUG's monthly calendar? Er, ok. For me, that
> seems 
> > a bit excessive -- especially under the current "free form"
> structure 
> > of the gatherings and their average attendance. If one were to be 
> > designated a lab/tutorial/installfest & troubleshoot time, that'd be
> a 
> > little more compelling. 
> > 
> > You asked for $.02 worth right? 
> > 
> > In terms of locations -- well, I don't know any of the places named
> thus 
> > far particularly well. I appreciate and agree with the MUNI 
> > constraint. Just for fun, I'll add two more cafes to the list: 
> > 
> > Kaleo, in the Inner Sunset. Pretty limited hours a couple blocks
> from a 
> > web of MUNI stops. 
> >
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/kaleo-cafe-san-francisco#hrid:epJIZQRaDNuCiTMYjrQiVA/query:cafe 
> > 
> > The Grind, in the Lower Haight. 
> >
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-grind-cafe-san-francisco#hrid:MWumRa-_lwmZGAPg4Ct37A/query:cafe%20wireless 
> > 
> > Though unspecified as a constraint, my preference would be spaces
> open 
> > to the public that do not require special/additional
> coordination(with a 
> > keymaster). Unless of course, the group did decide to specify this
> new 
> > time as being much more structured -- something it seemed the folks
> at 
> > SFSU(for example) required in order to make their facilities(which
> are 
> > more conducive to presentations) available. 
> > 
> > No vote on potential new timing. Though I'm aware that weekday
> evenings 
> > pretty much rule out the above Kaleo suggestion. 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > jt 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > jim wrote: 
> > > the hard constraint of sunday noonish 
> > > or monday early evening seems unnecessary: 
> > > if we pick a different day and time, we 
> > > won't have to worry that someone would 
> > > show up at javacat while we're elsewhere. 
> > > i like the idea of a third time and 
> > > different location. can we try various 
> > > third times and different locations until 
> > > we discover what works best? 
> > > 
> > > your #1 is not as close to Muni as #2 
> > > and about the same distance from BART as 
> > > #3, seems to me. parking is often easy 
> > > for #1, which matters to me (and some 
> > > others, i think). it seems noisy and has 
> > > a similar table setup as javacat. 
> > > never been to #2 or #3. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 16:44 -0700, Asheesh Laroia wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> What would people think of us looking at other locations? 
> > >> 
> > >> I've been looking on Yelp, and the constraints as I see are as
> follows: 
> > >> 
> > >> * Hard constraint: Open during SF-LUG meetings on Mondays and
> Sundays 
> > >> (This is harder than you might think.) 
> > >> * Has free wifi. 
> > >> * Would be able to seat a bunch of people. 
> > >> 
> > >> Soft constraint: 
> > >> * Should be close to public transit 
> > >> * Has better food and better seating than the Javacat. 
> > >> * Can retain SF-LUG's "neighborhood" feel as compared to BALUG's
> grittier 
> > >> downtown feel (I'm joking! (oar am I? (or am I?))) 
> > >> 
> > >> In some ways, I"d prefer to keep it close to SF-LUG's current
> location, 
> > >> but in some ways that location is pretty inconvenient for me and
> a few 
> > >> other people. We can maybe do a poll later to consider that
> question. 
> > >> Until then, I make three suggestions for discussion's sake: 
> > >> 
> > >> 1. Brain Wash (SOMA) 
> > >> * Location: 7th St & Folsom St, near Civic Center MUNI + BART 
> > >> * Some of us went there recently. 
> > >> *
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/brainwash-cafe-and-laundromat-san-francisco 
> > >> 
> > >> 2. H Cafe (Castro) 
> > >> * Location: 17th St & Sanchez St (near Castro MUNI) 
> > >> * http://hcafesf.com/community.html has nice-looking pictures 
> > >> 
> > >> 3. Cafe La Taza (Mission) 
> > >> * Location: Mission St between 20th & 21st, close (ish?) to 24th
> St BART 
> > >> * Delicious food 
> > >> * http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-la-taza-san-francisco-2 
> > >> 
> > >> I didn't look at places in very many neighborhoods due to my
> BART/MUNI 
> > >> obsession. There are many, many places that don't meet the first
> hard 
> > >> constraint. 
> > >> 
> > >> Of these, I prefer #1's transit accessibility. I never actually
> sat down 
> > >> there, though. What do others think? 
> > >> 
> > >> -- Asheesh. 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
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