[sf-lug] Ubuntu release ("back on-list" sub thread)

Kristian Erik Hermansen kristian.hermansen at gmail.com
Mon Apr 28 07:41:09 PDT 2008

Rick!  Man I usually stick up for you and I can understand some of
your frustrations with svlug, but its not nice to bash christian
einfeldt and the "google employee" on this list.  I have to assume you
were referring to warren turkal at google.  Warren is a well-meaning
guy and I don't see why you would say such things.  I think I know
warren well enough to say that he really does care about running a
useful linux group.  Let's just forget about all this and drop the
thread.  There is no need to argue online and we can all yell at each
other in person at the next cabal or something :-). Let's have hugs
and make up.  Life is too short to remain bitter...

On 4/28/08, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Oh, by the way:
> Quoting Kristian Erik Hermansen (kristian.hermansen at gmail.com):
> > Oh, how I hope this list doesn't go the way of SVLUG :-)
> SVLUG's problem during 2007 was its aggressively incompetent and
> alcohol-besotted then-president, who was rapidly driving it into the
> ground, which its small core of active volunteers fully realised but its
> collection of about a thousand mailing list members from all around the
> world -- almost all of whom didn't give a damn about SVLUG as an
> organisation, and only valued it as a mailing list -- were utterly
> clueless about, (loudly) resented hearing about the problem, and were
> inclined to piss on any and all volunteers who were aspiring to fix it.
> (That effectively included itinerant pundit Christian Einfeldt, whose
> contribution basically amounted to issuing random comments of no
> conceivable use to anyone, such as directly addressing the core
> volunteers at one crucial moment to advise them that the group is
> "ungovernable" -- based on his absolutely complete lack of understanding
> of the situation.  Yeah, thanks, Christian:  You're a really big help.)
> Oddly enough, all of that nonsense ceased pretty much the moment the
> then-president (finally) resigned.
> (A one-time volunteer employed by Google, Inc., who is a personal friend
> of the drunken ex-president, also makes occasional efforts to sabotage
> SVLUG's operations out of sheer spite, but hasn't yet managed it.)
> My own idea of being helpful resided in things like personally renewing
> SVLUG's Internet domain at my own expense, at the last minute in
> mid-2007, after its then-president willfully ignored my frequent private
> warnings for several months that it was approaching expiration -- which
> action I considered a bit more constructive than kicking the group's
> volunteers with hit-and-run namecalling and then walking away.
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